Liberté, égalité, burkini

Last Updated: August 27, 2016By
This Blog understands the burkini ban has been lifted but, while it was ongoing, it is understood that French police were handing out tickets which said burkini wearers were not ‘wearing an outfit respecting good morals and secularism’. [Image: Vantagenews.com].

This Blog understands the burkini ban has been lifted but, while it was ongoing, it is understood that French police were handing out tickets which said burkini wearers were not ‘wearing an outfit respecting good morals and secularism’. [Image: Vantagenews.com].

Does anybody know…?

Think of the Labour Party office-holders who are prohibiting members from voting in the leadership election because they have used certain words in the past – words which have now been unilaterally banned by the same office-holders.

Have any of those people expressed an opinion on the controversial burkini ban on French beaches?

Logically, if anybody wants to deny another person their right to democracy because they used a certain word two or three years ago, they wouldn’t hesitate to support a law that tells women what they can and can’t wear.

Right?

I think we need comments on the subject from Iain McNicol, Paddy Lillis, Johanna Baxter… it would be useful to have Tom Watson’s views on the subject.

And what about all the mainstream media sources who support those people but spoke out against the burkini ban?

That’s not to say we wouldn’t welcome comments from Corbyn campaigners as well – but I think we all know what their answer would be.

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3 Comments

  1. Stephen August 28, 2016 at 9:53 am - Reply

    In a free country people should be able to wear what they like within reason. The Burkini doesn’t cover the face and so doesn’t mask the identity of its wearer and so what’s wrong with wearing it on the beach or elsewhere? I approve of rules in respect to public nudity when children are around or people offended by such exposure but why make a fuss about people on beaches who are not nude enough? Doesn’t make sense to me and seems very unfair.

  2. against fanatisms September 2, 2016 at 6:23 pm - Reply

    The burkini is a religious symbol, used to do Muslim proselytism.

    Women can use a diving suit to protect from UV sun light, in any secular country, because that is not a religious symbol,
    If a woman feels shame of her body because she feels to be fat, or just simple has shame to show her body for any reason, she can wear any loose clothes which are not a religious symbol like burkini. I mean, any of any religion making proselytism.

    Muslims ask for freedom to violate secular state laws, because they want to make proselytism of Islam.
    On the other hand Islamic theocracies ask foreigners to adhere to their religious norms. Why should Muslims be allow to break the norms of secular states? I think that they should respect the laws of secular states. Those norms are to stop any religious proselytism not just Muslim.

    The only way to warrant the freedom of beliefs, is a secular state which does not bias to any religion.

    If secular countries do not warrant scientific non religious education to all children, they are allowing political religious proselytism to be soiled in the mind of children.
    Those children sooner or later can be easily manipulated to perform terrorist attacks.
    That it is happening today with “spontaneous” terrorists manipulated by hate discourses spread on Internet, provoking very frequent attacks against Israel and Europe civilians.

    An objective scientific non-religious education, both public and private, should be a Universal Human Right!

    • Mike Sivier September 3, 2016 at 11:23 am - Reply

      How on Earth can you equate the wearing of a not-very-practical piece of beachwear with attempting to convert people to a particular religion (proselytism)?
      These people are just behaving according to their religion – not trying to recruit people into it.
      Muslims are not free to violate any state’s laws. There is no bias towards Islam here.
      I think you have a bit of a personal problem.

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