Will Brexiters get the message from this billboard campaign?

It’s probably a bit too wordy for your average ‘Leave’ voter.

But the message is clear, for everybody who thinks it is clever to get onto the social media and say things like, “You lost – get over it!”.

Because the fact is that the UK’s economic situation – driven into the ground by Conservative financial incompetence – will nosedive after Brexit.

And, while only a minority of people in the UK voted for it, we will all have to suffer the consequences.

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19 Comments

  1. Justin October 27, 2018 at 4:06 pm - Reply

    true we will have to suffer the consequences especially under the tory policy of carry on regardless, however tory seems to forget one thing we vote and that is the one thing that this time might well be the mark on there copybook and that also goes for there lovely duppy friends remember that when you carry on your arrogant ways we vote and my vote will be one of the ones that will never have a x in tory or its supporting act

  2. Growing Flame October 27, 2018 at 4:29 pm - Reply

    Looks OK but referring to “Leavers” might be a bit confusing. Maybe someone who isn’t a school Leaver this year might think it was an ad for a job!
    But worthwhile getting the statistic over. Encouraging for us “Remainers” to see it, as well. So it would be good to see a lot more.

    The mass media don’t seem to ever challenge this “the people have spoken clearly” rhetoric from Brexiters. And they still insist on the tiredest cliche of all ie . going to a small town market in the middle of the day to conduct vox pop interviews with locals. This usually means OAPs out shopping. And the small business types running the stalls. I am an OAP but I suspect that these two demographic groups are the most likely to have voted to Leave.

    There are less likely to be young people and those in full time work who have no time to be wandering around the market stalls. Sheer laziness and lack of imagination by the journalists involved , though, to be honest, the Brexiters being interviewed often seem rather similar and rarely good adverts for their cause.

  3. Gary Bowman October 27, 2018 at 4:55 pm - Reply

    Inflammatory,unhelpful and divisive at a time when we need less division. Both sides have elements that spew vitriol. What are we going to do? End up wallpapering the bloody streets with posters. If leavers are up against 73% of the population, why didn’t the majority get off there arses and vote? We wouldn’t be in this bloody mess! When you don’t vote, you get what you don’t want. It’s a bloody awful way to learn that lesson!

    • Mike Sivier October 30, 2018 at 12:56 am - Reply

      Leavers will be responsible for the consequences of Brexit. The other 73 per cent of the population won’t. It’s not about who voted or not, it’s about who will be responsible for what happens after March 2019.

      I certainly agree with you about the consequences of failing to vote, though. Hopefully a few (million) people have learned that lesson.

  4. melanie October 27, 2018 at 6:16 pm - Reply

    Just out of curiosity, why did the 73% not vote remain? If they had we would not be in this dreadful situation.

  5. iamcrawford October 27, 2018 at 7:47 pm - Reply

    That’s a really silly point – it is equally true that more (than 73%/) did not vote remain.
    It could be argued that those that didn’t vote were happy to accept the outcome whichever way it had gone.

    This sort of nonsense only serves to undermine the remain campaign!

    • Mike Sivier October 30, 2018 at 12:53 am - Reply

      See my other responses. The point is that everyone who didn’t vote ‘Leave’ will resent those who did, once the consequences of Brexit bite.

  6. Julian Townsend October 27, 2018 at 10:12 pm - Reply

    You are quite wrong about this. More people voted Leave than Remain. That’s democracy. You have no right to presume that everyone who didn’t vote was a Remainer!
    The referendum vote was the greatest slap in the face the ruling class has had since the 1945 GE result. It produced the Corbyn surge and has brought us within an inch of government.
    There are enough rightwingers trying to undermine Labour. Please don’t join in. Work with JC for a workers’ Brexit.

    • Mike Sivier October 30, 2018 at 12:52 am - Reply

      I don’t think there’s any presumption that everyone who didn’t vote was a Remainer.
      The claim is that everyone who didn’t vote ‘Leave’ is going to resent those who did when the consequences of Brexit bite home. I agree with that claim. We will all find out whether it is accurate, soon enough.
      And the appeal is for those who did vote ‘Leave’ to stop being offensive to those who did not. It is a reasonable request, given the vast number of comments on the social media that add up to “You lost – get over it!”

      And I’m not trying to undermine Labour. Whyever are you trying to suggest that?

      • Tris Stock October 30, 2018 at 8:59 am - Reply

        I have no interest in being offensive to those that voted Remain. What I do find offensive is that those same people think they have any sort of democratic right to usurp the democratic rights of everyone that voted in the 2016 referendum. This should come as no surprise to you, but then, you’ve been at best selective about how people argue this this on your comments section. I’ve pointed out to you in very clear terms, why this assumption is without foundation, but you insist on not publishing reasonable refutations of your claims. This is evidence that your argument doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. But then, I guess you already know this, even if you cannot bring yourself to recognise the fact.

        • Mike Sivier December 20, 2018 at 11:20 am - Reply

          I have no idea what you mean.

  7. Tris Stock October 29, 2018 at 1:32 am - Reply

    So, from this I can only assume that you believe a democratic vote includes those that chose not to vote at all, and that you believe that of those that declined, their intention was a rejection of Leave?

    That would be an entirely new form of democracy, the likes of which has never been adopted by any democracy anywhere in the world, or at any time. And the fact that there were some 13+ million that didn’t vote, means only that we have insufficient information upon which to draw the conclusion this poster alludes to.

    Perhaps you favour compulsory voting? Or a test to see that voters understand the nature of that they are voting on? With regard to the former, what penalties do you favour for not voting (or spoiling a paper), and where would you draw the line with regard to annulling a vote where these then criminals have made a mockery of this new democracy? One vote? 1,269,502? I trust your next General Election vote will support prison places for up to as much as a fifteen-fold increase in the prison population overnight? Or do you consider fining them for having the audacity to believe their winning 2016 vote was sufficient? Would it be retroactive, as you show no inkling of the idea that fairness is anything you hold dear? As for testing, should we all be properly versed on the intricacies of EURATOM, or perhaps we should hold the correct opinion on the new capital rules for the insurance sector (Solvency II)? Or have sufficient knowledge of future market conditions? Do we have to take the test as we vote, or will there be a round of exams for each of the 46+ million voters?

    This poster isn’t so much a lie, as it is a bald assertion and a misrepresentation. One has to wonder, to what level your average “Remain” supporter will stoop to, in order to disengage from their cognitive dissonance everytime they are reminded they lost a democratic vote.

    • Mike Sivier December 20, 2018 at 11:29 am - Reply

      The point of the poster is that Leave supporters who push their point of view on the rest of us in the offensive way we have seen will not only annoy those who voted Remain, they will alienate those who did not vote. You, personally, would do well to remind yourself that much of the Leave campaign was based on false information and many Leave voters have expressed regret at having been tricked. It’s a shame that the various Leave campaigns resorted to such villainy to win the vote, and even more shameful that, knowing the vote was won with deception, certain Leave supporters are keen to crow about it.

  8. nmac064 October 29, 2018 at 10:28 am - Reply

    Far too complicated for most leavers.

  9. iamcrawford October 29, 2018 at 5:22 pm - Reply

    Could equally say “Attention Remain-ers more than 73% did not Vote remain”.

    Obvious misrepresentation like this does the campaign to halt Brexit no good at all.

    • Mike Sivier November 1, 2018 at 9:17 pm - Reply

      It isn’t misrepresentation. Remainers aren’t going around posting offensive “You lost – get over it!” comments on the social media, or denying everyone the chance to have another democratic exercise by saying they are trying to deny a democratic exercise.

      Think about who’s putting forward a misrepresentation here.

  10. Prickly October 29, 2018 at 10:06 pm - Reply

    Mike, I find it sad that you are condoning Hate Crime when normally you are against it.

    • Mike Sivier October 30, 2018 at 12:43 am - Reply

      Whatever do you mean by such a suggestion?

  11. Growing Flame November 2, 2018 at 9:08 am - Reply

    I am (desperately!) looking forward to a General Election so we can elect a real Labour government. But I cannot see much benefit in a Labour government running the country outside the EU. The economic consequences of a Labour government are , anyway, likely to be grim because the London investors will be pulling the money out and trying to wreck the economy with their own form of industrial action ie running down any investments in the UK and shipping their cash overseas. But leaving the EU will double that effect. We have already seen the UK economy slip from being the 5th largest world economy to being the 6th. And that is before either a Labour victory or a finalised Brexit.

    I look forward to the sheer joy and relief of a Labour victory at the next election and I am working right now to help achieve it. But I know that, once in power, we will face an even bigger ideological battle as the economy tanks after Brexit and the Tories and the Press fall over themselves to blame US rather than Brexit and the rigged economy we will inherit.

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