After the report, the backlash: Facebook bans posts on Vox Political page due to vexatious complaint

In context: The image that Facebook said showed support for “dangerous individuals or organisations”. Do you think that’s what it does?

This is utterly despicable.

After This Site’s article on the Labour Party’s 851-page report into the way anti-Semitism complaints weren’t investigated by a right-wing team – whose factional opoposition of Jeremy Corbyn led them to do nothing in a bid to make him look incompetent, Facebook has banned This Writer from posting on the Vox Political page hosted by that platform.

But get this – it isn’t because of the link to my article about the Labour report. No, it’s because someone complained about an article I published nearly four years ago.

I received the following message today:

“You can’t post or comment for 30 days
“This is because you previously posted something that didn’t follow our Community Standards.

“Vox Political
“14 September 2016 ·

“Suspension of Attlee’s nephew proves Labour’s ‘compliance team’ does not understand satire http://wp.me/p4Sru1-6AR

How we make decisions

“We use either technology or a review team to remove anything that doesn’t follow our standards as quickly as possible.

“We use the same Community Standards around the world for everyone on Facebook.

“Different regions of the world have their own review teams trained on the standards.

“We don’t allow symbols, praise or support of dangerous individuals or organisations on Facebook.

“We define dangerous as things such as:

• Terrorist activity
• Organised hate
• Mass or serial murder
• Human trafficking
• Organised violence or criminal activity

“Because your post goes against our Community Standards on dangerous individuals and organisations, only people who manage Vox Political can see it.

Accept Decision
“You won’t be able to request a review and we’ll update other people who manage Vox Political.

Disagree with decision
“We use your feedback to make improvements on future decisions.

“We usually offer the chance to request a review, and follow up if we got decisions wrong.

“We have fewer reviewers available at the moment because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak. We’re trying hard to prioritise reviewing content with the most potential for harm.

“This means we may not be able to follow up with you, but your feedback will help us do better in the future.

Thank you for understanding.

I didn’t understand – and I told them so in no uncertain terms:

“Your Community Standards system has stopped working properly.

“Its team has banned me from posting on my page Vox Political because of a link I posted on September 14, 2016: : Suspension of Attlee’s nephew proves Labour’s ‘compliance team’ does not understand satire http://wp.me/p4Sru1-6AR

“I believe the decision was based on the image accompanying the link, which was the image that had led to Clement Attlee’s nephew’s suspension. If I am right then it shows your community standards team has no understanding of satire either.

“The claim is that, in posting it, I am showing praise for dangerous individuals or organisations but this is nonsense.

“The image is a commentary on then-UK prime minister David Cameron. It depicts him as Adolf Hitler, and quotes Hitler saying the best way to remove people’s rights is piecemeal, because then they do not realise their rights have been removed until the time they could successfully get them back is long past. It was a comment on Mr Cameron’s policies at the time and was an expression of opposition to those policies – not of support for either him or Hitler (who I suspect was the “dangerous individual or organisation” implied in your notice banning me from posting.

“I supply a screenshot of the image, in its place in the article. Clearly your Community Standards team never bothered to visit the article or read it, as this would have made the matter perfectly clear.

“Please restore my ability to post to my page IMMEDIATELY and explain why you allow your Community Standards team to ban people from posting on their pages on the basis of such poor evidence-gathering, which is utterly unacceptable from an organisation that claims to act responsibly.

“As the article that appears to have caused the offence is now nearly four years old, I am guessing that Facebook must have received a complaint about it. Who issued that complaint? Will you be taking action against them, or at least refusing to accept any further vexatious complaints from them?”

I note that Labour’s report (The work of the Labour Party’s Governance and Legal Unit in relation to antisemitism, 2014-2019) states on page 847: “Currently, half of all antisemitism complaints the Labour Party receives come from one individual, who is trawling social media for evidence.”

I wonder if the complaint to Facebook originated with the same individual.

Interestingly, Labour’s report appears to describe this individual as one “who is highly abusive towards Party staff and Party members and submits large numbers of poorly formatted and poorly evidenced complaints”. The report’s author then tries to make it seem praiseworthy that Labour is giving such a deranged individual the time of day.

If the complaints are similar to this, both Labour and Facebook should not only refuse to countenance any further correspondence from this individual, but should name and shame that person – to ensure they cannot spread their poison any further.

Who is it, Labour? Who is it, Facebook? Tell us now.

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21 Comments

  1. Helen Maddock April 13, 2020 at 1:34 pm - Reply

    So sorry to hear that you are going through this; however it should give you a sense of pride insomuch as it demonstrates that you are on the correct path.
    It is always like this for whistle blowers and for those brave enough to stick their heads above the parapet and argue back.
    Once you become “a person of interest” or a “targeted person” you may expect all kind of under handed attacks.
    Pay particular attention to your housing landlords response would be my advice..ditto ALL DWP missives….from experience.

    Head up, temper down, eyes wide open, never give in never give up.

    in Solidarity ~ Raspberry Ritz

    • Mike Sivier April 13, 2020 at 2:26 pm - Reply

      Oh, I know – I’ve been getting this treatment for almost exactly four years.

    • Ian pemberton April 14, 2020 at 8:58 pm - Reply

      See my replies on this thread.
      There is something very sinister going on with Facebook.
      Big Brother is watching.

    • Ian pemberton April 14, 2020 at 9:06 pm - Reply

      My only crime on Facebook was to stand up to racist morons.
      Facebook is not an honest broker of its own community standards.
      If Facebook was around in the 30s and 40s they would be running paid adverts for the final solution while banning people for speaking the truth or sharing pics of tits.
      Facebook,you will be judged by history.

      • Mike Sivier April 14, 2020 at 9:18 pm - Reply

        So no pictures of Hitler or Mussolini on 30s Facebook then.

      • Ian pemberton April 15, 2020 at 8:55 am - Reply

        I don’t think it was the picture of Goebbels that got me a 30 day ban,it was what the meme said.
        I got another 30 day ban some months ago when I replied to a racist with a meme that had a picture of Mosley and his black shirts doing nazi salutes with the slogan ‘Hands up who reads the Daily Mail.’

  2. timfrom April 13, 2020 at 1:34 pm - Reply

    So who is this vexatious individual? My money says rhymes with Margaret Dodge.

  3. Roland Laycock April 13, 2020 at 1:53 pm - Reply

    O’Dear you tell the truth and look where it gets you

  4. Ian pemberton April 13, 2020 at 2:57 pm - Reply

    I have had the same problem.I replied to a Tory troll with meme with a quote from Goebbels ‘If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes accepted as truth.’
    So far I have had three 30 day bans.I’m half way through one now.
    Facebook has become a tool for the suppression of free speech.

  5. trev April 13, 2020 at 3:01 pm - Reply

    Neither Facebook nor Labour can handle the truth.

  6. Martin Odoni April 13, 2020 at 3:59 pm - Reply

    There is NO WAY that the timing of this is just a coincidence.

    There’s just no way.

  7. Dez April 13, 2020 at 4:01 pm - Reply

    Should be disclosable otherwise any idiot can take out a site or worse an opposition actor who does not like any critical voice. Shame Facebook and the other globalist controlled media were allowed to get far to powerful and morphed into controlled propaganda platforms.

  8. Jeffrey Davies April 13, 2020 at 4:02 pm - Reply

    Spiteful gits are getting their way. Stammer the spammer is getting the house in order ready for his Tory rule

  9. Sylvia Thompson April 13, 2020 at 4:28 pm - Reply

    Our day will come Comrades XX

  10. thejaffer April 13, 2020 at 5:23 pm - Reply

    This has happened to me several times, in despite of my verifying my credentials with faceshite – several times!

  11. Ian pemberton April 14, 2020 at 4:50 pm - Reply

    Because I commented here Facebook book have extended my ban. They gave me a fresh 30 day ban.They must be monitoring this site.There’s something sinister going on here.

    • timfrom April 14, 2020 at 9:58 pm - Reply

      Well if you WILL use Facebook, ya pays yer money, ya takes yer choice, y’know?

      Good job I never touched it with a barge pole!

  12. Ian pemberton April 14, 2020 at 8:39 pm - Reply

    In reference to my previous comments search online for Sasha Baron Cohens speech about Facebook.
    A message from me to Facebook-you will never silence me!
    Facebook is now a right wing propaganda machine that is suppressing free speech.
    My only crime was standing up to racist morons.
    History will judge you.
    F#$ck Facebook!

  13. Ian pemberton April 14, 2020 at 8:41 pm - Reply

    Dear Vox political.Please allow my comments as I think that something really sinister is going on with Facebook

  14. Ian pemberton April 14, 2020 at 10:24 pm - Reply

    Sorry if I am going on a bit here but Facebook are destroying free speech.
    The reason they gave for my new 30 day ban was the Goebbels meme from months ago,even though I can’t post or comment or post anything.They gave me another ban for commenting here.Think about that….they give 30 day bans for commenting off Facebook!
    The dictatorship is here and now.
    If I was not banned from Facebook i would be posting news from Tywyn.A small isolated town in North Wales and currently full of 2nd home owners and a people staying at holiday homes managed by a local business man who puts his profit above the lives of our elderly population.
    But then Facebook doesn’t really care about real news,just their profits.
    They will be digging mass graves here soon.
    I despair.

  15. Ian pemberton April 14, 2020 at 10:46 pm - Reply

    Please allow my comments.It’s getting very Dire here.At least one one care home here has an out break. Llys Gadfan here in Tywyn has an outbreak.Please report this.
    F*** Facebook….but please report this

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