More details of possible Russo-Ukrainian peace plan – and they’re still in line with This Site

Last Updated: March 19, 2022By Tags: , , , , , , ,

The negotiators: in fact these talks have ended but its the best pic This Site has to describe the long and difficult, if not tortuous, process of peace negotiations.

Seriously, it seems This Writer is more politically-aware than we all thought.

We have already seen that part of Vladimir Putin’s plan for peace between Russia and Ukraine – and a part that has been agreed – was in line with a “naive” set of ideas I published a few days ago: that Ukraine should give up its bid to join Nato, but be able to rely on outside help.

Now other details have been revealed after a phone conversation between Putin and Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Allied to the first condition – and elements that I didn’t envision – are the following: Ukraine would have to undergo a disarmament process to ensure it wasn’t a threat to Russia. There would have to be protection for the Russian language in Ukraine. And Ukraine would have to condemn all forms of neo-Nazism and promise to clamp down on them.

I wasn’t convinced by the disarmament demand because it seemed that Russia was effectively calling on Ukraine to deliberately make itself vulnerable to a Russian invasion. Closer inspection, though, makes it seem possible; Ukraine isn’t being asked to terminate its ability to defend itself – just to reassure Russia that it won’t attack that much large country. Doable.

Protection for the Russian language doesn’t seem to be an issue at all.

The neo-Nazi issue is thorny because Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy – a Jew whose relatives died in the Nazi Holocaust – hotly disputes that his country has anything to do with Nazism of any kind. But if that’s true then, logically, he shouldn’t have a problem with promising to ensure that this vile ideology won’t gain a foothold in his country.

We also have details of more contentious matters – and yes, Yr Obdt Srvt raised them days ago:

Something will need to be agreed about the disputed, breakaway eastern regions of Ukraine – Donbas, Donetsk, Luhansk are the names you’ll know. The question is whether Russia will try to take them over altogether. I suggested referenda to let the people there decide whether they want to be Ukrainian, Russian or independent. To me, that seems the only democratic way.

And Russia will want formal acceptance that the Crimean peninsula is Russian, not Ukrainian. While this may be a bone of contention, there are many reasons the Crimean should go back to Russia. Besides – in real terms, there’s nothing Mr Zelenskyy can do about it.

And that’s the lot – from the Russian side, at least. I expected more.

I’m now avid to learn what Ukraine’s conditions might be. I suggested that Russia would need to offer help of some kind in repairing the appalling damage Russian troops have done to that country.

But what else? We’ll have to wait and see.

For This Writer, the bottom line is: if the writer of a tiny political website could see what peace conditions were likely to be, then it shouldn’t be too hard for the powerful people at the head of the two countries involved to bring those conditions about.

Let’s hope it happens soon.

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2 Comments

  1. Elijah Traven March 19, 2022 at 11:02 am - Reply

    The situation is out of hand. It is that situation which will determine the future of Ukraine. The talks are just good will gestures. What was Ukraine, a feeding ground of US hatred of Russia and a bridgehead of destabilisation is gone for good. Mariupol is close to falling and considered by the two independent republics as part of their territory. The Nazis are up against the wall as the corridor of evacuation is being secured by Russian and Donbas troops. They Nazis are blowing up everything and terrorising the population. Russia will eradicate them and Ukrainian armed forces if they don’t lay down their arms. Odessa and Kharkov are coming up. The capital is a gem waiting for capitulation. There is no rush. The sanctions and other actions of US EU UK make any peaceful resolution impossible. This Anglo Saxon world of vicious, unforgiving violence and robbery is coming to a close as the economics of the world no longer favour them. India and China are refusing to play ball with the monsters and are gaining and giving confidence to the rest of the non Western world. That is where the future lies with NATO disintegrating and justice coming on its heel. The big shots are from another world, another culture. Real, proud and sane. There is no democracy in the UK, that’s your autarchy. With its fantasy media and class ridden education system it is hanging on the edge of obliteration. Good. Remove the landowners, remove the monarchy and eradicate conservatism. Let’s have our own independent republics. That’s the joy to come. Hundreds of years of servitude has caused the psychological collapse of the people. Perestroika and Glasnost though foreign terms are certainly what the peoples psychiatrist is calling for. We will need sanatorium for millions of people for decades to come.

  2. Tony March 19, 2022 at 11:25 am - Reply

    Thank you for this.

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