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Does this debunk the myths about Israel creating Hamas?

Benjamin Netanyahu: he had nothing to do with the creation of Hamas, which happened in 1928, 20 years before Israel was created and before he was born. Hamas wasn’t a puppet of Israel, but Israel used it to create division among Palestinians and make Israel look good to western governments. Now, Netanyahu has discovered that the West supports his Gaza genocide (despite the vehement opposition of those nations’ populations).

Did an Israeli government create Hamas to become a ‘bogeyman’ for its own population – and to present to the international community as a reason Palestinian land should be occupied or walled off, and Palestinian people subjugated?

Maybe not. It always seemed a strange claim to This Writer. In the thread below, Mouin Rabbani examines the evidence.

I’m not saying any of the following is accurate; I’m merely putting it up for discussion. If you have better evidence, then please offer it.

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One caveat: if you don’t have evidence, but just feel the need to fling around some pejorative comments, then please take them somewhere else. Let’s try to keep the standard of debate high.

TL:DR: Hamas had its origins long before Israel. After the creation of Israel, that nation favoured Hamas over other organisations as part of a “divide and rule” policy. Benjamin Netanyahu had nothing to do with such actions, though. And now he has discovered that he can simply murder many thousands of Gazans with the full support of western governments, so he’s doing that instead.

Here’s the thread:


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This video could be just pro-Palestine propaganda. WHAT IF IT ISN’T?

Israel says one thing; Palestine another. There may be fact in their somewhere – it is our job to decide what it is and act on it.

We’ve had to put up with a lot of pro-Israel propaganda – a lot of wild claims – about the events of October 7, 2023 and everything after. Here’s a video clip giving an alternative view.

Take it with a pinch of salt – it is highly inflammatory in favour of continued hostilities by Palestinians against Israel.

As bystanders, the people of other nations – like the UK – should have just one interest: peace.

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There are possibilities to win such a peace, mentioned in the clip.

Perhaps we should consider how we can help to do so.

See what you think:


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Did Suella Braverman incite far-right occupation at the cenotaph?

Cenotaph scuffle: far-right groups clashed violently with police at the cenotaph in London.

A far-right crowd broke through a cordon around the cenotaph in London by fighting police.

The Mirror reported:

A huge crowd of people were seen waving St George’s flags and chanting “England till I die” as they walked through the Embankment. Police tried to block them from reaching Whitehall but the thugs managed to barge their way past. They could be heard shouting “let’s have them” and officers got out their batons. The group appears to have reached Whitehall where the Cenotaph is situated. Many more are pushing through, shouting “forward”.

The clashes took place just moments before members of the public took part in the Armistice Day two-minute silence, to mark the end of the First World War. Many of the demonstrators covered their faces in masks as they hurled bottles at the police.

One witness said: “Police have lost control. Far right thugs are swarming around Whitehall, climbing up on fencing and bollards. Sixteen minutes to 11am on Armistice Day. Absolute disgrace.”

Here’s a clip of these far-right thugs at the cenotaph, 15 minutes before 11am:

The comment on this clip is persuasive:

 

The invaders even performed Nazi salutes at the cenotaph – a monument to those who fought against Nazism:

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This was happening long before the march calling for peace in Palestine, which took place in a completely different part of London:

James O’Brien, speaking on LBC, put Home Secretary Suella Braverman’s role in a nutshell:

But still Braverman, whose words prompted the right-wingers to come out in large numbers, had support:

Of course, the claim that right-wingers were at the cenotaph because of the peace march is nonsense; the march did not go anywhere near the cenotaph, as was known well in advance.

Police also clashed with right-wingers in Chinatown:

Meanwhile – more than an hour after the right-wingers stormed the cenotaph for no reason at all, a peaceful demonstration calling for a ceasefire in Gaza took place elsewhere in London. Hundreds of thousands of people took part:

British Jews were well-represented:

Peace demonstrations also took place elsewhere in the UK, including Edinburgh:

Source: Tommy Robinson and masked far-right thugs fight police and break through Cenotaph cordon – Mirror Online


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On the eve of the Armistice Day peace march, what’s going on in Israel/Palestine?

Let’s have a visual reminder of what’s going on in Israel and Palestine.

Be warned: some of the following material may be disturbing.

In World War II, six million Jews were murdered, not for anything they had done, but because of what they were. Here’s the story of Jewish people murdering a Palestinian for the exact same reason:

It makes the words “Never Again” ring hollow, doesn’t it?

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The al-Rantisi children’s hospital is in Gaza:

It is a war crime to destroy a place of worship:

That is the reason (hopefully) a million people will be in London, marching for peace in Palestine, on Armistice Day.

Let’s not be bogged down by laying blame. People are dying.

How many of us have to go to London before our government accepts the will of the majority and ends its support for the Gaza genocide?


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Right-wingers rush to boost Braverman after ‘police bias’ article

Sulky: Suella Braverman is acting like a schoolgirl trying to stir up trouble over imaginary insults.

Suella Braverman is facing calls to resign as Home Secretary – or be pushed out – after The Times published an article in which she accused the police of left-wing bias.

But does she need to fear for her job when hard-right lunatics on the social media are rushing to support her?

The BBC has reported the issue as follows:

She claimed aggressive right-wing protesters were “rightly met with a stern response”, while “pro-Palestinian mobs” were “largely ignored”.

The article was not cleared by Downing Street and suggested changes to the text were not followed, No 10 said.

Some Tories have called for the home secretary to be sacked.

It comes ahead of a Pro-Palestinian march for a ceasefire in Gaza, which is due to take place in central London on Saturday.

It strikes This Writer as odd that – for example – the Metropolitan Police, which has been found to be institutionally racist, sexist and homophobic – all right-wing faults, should be accused of lefty bias.

But it seems to me that Braverman may have used her article, in advance of the Armistice Day march calling for peace in Gaza (which she opposes), to stir up her attack dogs.

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Let’s have a look at what some of them have been saying (with relevant responses where possible):

Let’s have another response, covering the lockdown comment:

For clarity: Danny Kruger is a Conservative MP and his claims about the Armistice Day march are all false. It is not a march in sympathy with terrorism and it does not call for Israel to be dissolved. The only conclusion one should draw from his post is that he should be removed from Parliament as soon as possible.

The danger with this one is that Ms Wallersteiner may be seen to be inviting people to believe that everybody taking part in the peace marches have been calling for Jews to die and ripping down posters of Israeli hostages. In fact, the peace marches have all included substantial contingents of Jewish participants, and it seems highly unlikely that they would call for their fellow Jews to be killed.

Just to hammer the point home, let’s have another response to the same post:

I’m sure you get the gist by now; right-wing mouthpieces have come out in support of Braverman but nothing they say makes any sense.

Sadly, as some of the responses have pointed out, the cack-handed way the Armistice Day march has been handled by politicians like Braverman means hard-right-wing nutcases have organised themselves to converge on London and hold demonstrations of their own.

It seems they are determined to converge on the cenotaph that politicians, police and the media have said should be left alone as a mark of respect.

These are people who say they support Braverman’s point of view, remember.

Let’s see what happens on the day and lay any blame where it belongs afterwards.


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Story about poppy seller attacked by peace protesters was a LIE

No he wasn’t: British Transport Police have investigated this claim and it is not true.

Were you shocked by allegations that a poppy seller was attacked by pro-Palestine protesters at Edinburgh Waverley Railway Station?

This story:

IT WAS A LIE:

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The statement by British Transport Police Assistant Chief Constable Sean O’Callaghan reads:

A reported assault on a poppy stall seller whilst a demonstration was taking place at the station[:] Detectives have extensively monitored CCTV and spoken with key identified witnesses. There is insufficient evidence to take the investigation further at this time.

We have no reason to believe that poppy sellers are at any risk or being intentionally targeted.

Let that sink in – while you’re compiling a list of all the right-wing mouthpieces who lied to you about it.


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Palestine march organisers respond to Met Police: #WeWillMarch

Against genocide: have a visual reminder that the people who oppose the continued murder of innocent Gazans include a large Jewish contingent.

You will have heard a lot of guff from our right-wing politicians (Tory and Labour) and right-wing press, demanding that a march for peace in Gaza should not take place on Remembrance weekend. Here is the response to that nonsense, from the march’s organisers:

We are deeply concerned at the statement released by the Met Police with regards to our proposed march on November 11. We have been meeting with the Police regularly in the past few weeks to maximise public safety in the large scale protests we have been organising. These protests have brought in total over 1 million people to the streets of London marching peacefully, calling for a ceasefire.

We met earlier today with the Police to finalise the route details of the planned march on Saturday going from Marble Arch to The US Embassy – well away from the centre of London and Whitehall. At that meeting the Police made clear, as reaffirmed in their statement, that the marches we had organised had been overwhelmingly peaceful with low levels of arrest.

They asked us to consider not marching this Saturday and postponing for a week because of the sensitivity of this weekend. It is categorically untrue that the Police told us that it was not appropriate to protest this weekend. They raised a concern about the possibility of breakaway groups leaving the march but were not able to provide any evidence as to why this risk would be increased on Saturday 11 November.

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As we made clear in the meeting, we recognise the political pressure being placed on the police by the Government and right wing political groups. However, we emphasise that they had and have a responsibility to withstand that pressure and act to uphold democratic freedoms including the right to protest.

Those mounting pressure are the same voices actively resisting the call for a ceasefire despite overwhelming public support for that call. The idea that it is acceptable for Israel to keep bombing and killing Palestinians in Gaza including over 4000 children, but not for people to protest peacefully against these crimes is grotesque.

We will be holding a protest on Saturday and we invite all people of conscience to join us in peacefully marching, as planned, from Hyde Park to the US Embassy. Despite their statement we will continue to engage with the Police to ensure public safety on this protest.

Palestine Solidarity Campaign,
Friends of Al-Aqsa,
Stop the War Coalition,
Muslim Association of Britain,
Palestinian Forum in Britain,
Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament.

Let’s do a little survey.

Please comment below if you hear the above statement – or any part of it – quoted in news reports or mainstream media political discussion of the Armistice Day event – or if you see/hear a discussion and it doesn’t quote the statement.

Source: “We Will Be Holding A Protest on Saturday” – Palestine march organisers respond to Met Police. #WeWillMarch – Labour Outlook


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Palestine peace march route is announced and, no – it’s nowhere near the cenotaph

Public opinion: we’re told half a million people attended the last march for peace in Palestine. Let’s make sure Saturday’s march has more than a million.

Right-wing disrespecters of the meaning of Armistice Day and Remembrance Day will be trying to distract you from this – so make sure everyone you know is aware of it.

Organisers of the pro-Palestine peace march on Saturday (November 11 – Armistice Day) have announced that it will start in Hyde Park at midday, following a route that will take it to the United States Embassy on Nine Elms Lane.

That’s nowhere near the cenotaph on Whitehall!

So much for the propaganda of the right-wing warmongering genocide-monkeys.

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At the embassy, marchers will demand an immediate ceasefire.

This information comes from Jeremy Corbyn, who stated: “I have been proud to speak at every major demonstration for Palestine in Central London and I will be there again this Saturday as we march from Hyde Park to the US Embassy demanding an immediate ceasefire.

“I hope you will join me and encourage your friends and family to join this peaceful protest.

“With the Home Secretary stoking division and calling these peace marches ‘hate marches’, it is more important than ever to stand up for the right to protest and a peaceful way forward.”

This Writer will not be there.

I’m in Mid Wales, I’m a carer for a person with long-term illnesses and disabilities and I am staying here.

But I’ll be there in spirit.

And I urge anybody who can be in London on Saturday to make sure that you are.


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History shows the UK should support Palestine peace marchers on Remembrance weekend

Respect: Remembrance commemorations must include the servicepeople who died defending Palestine against Zionists in the 1930s and 40s. The haters who want to stop a peace march are spitting on their graves.

A commenter to This Site provided a little historical insight into how the Israel/Palestine conflict should affect Armistice Day and Remembrance Day. It’s not what you’ve been told:

750 British soldiers and Police were killed in Palestine in the 1930s and 1940s, nearly all by Zionist terrorists who were using violence to bring about a Jewish state of Israel.

They included men killed when Zionist terrorists blew up the Jerusalem Officers Club and then the King David Hotel(90 died in the hotel blast including many civilians).

As revenge for the execution of their own men, one Zionist gang kidnapped two British sergeants and hanged them , attaching a booby trap to the bodies so that the British Officer cutting them down was badly injured.

They gave their lives so that Palestine would not be taken over by an influx of European Zionists who were planning to erase Palestine from the map.

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Britain eventually shrugged and just handed it over to the Zionists.

So why should a pro-Palestine march be regarded as ruining the commemoration of British soldiers who were killed in various colonial conflicts?

British politicians who say they are “standing by Israel” are the ones who are spitting on the memory of so many British soldiers who were killed by the terrorists who created Israel.

If anything, the pro-Palestine march should be welcomed to march past the Cenotaph so that we can all express sympathy for the soldiers who died fighting Zionism.

So Remembrance Day commemorations include the servicepeople who died defending Palestine (as it was) from Zionists, back before Israel was established by the United Nations.

Casts a different light on the opposition to the planned march, doesn’t it?


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Oliver Dowden is wrong on-air about peaceful protest

Oliver Dowden: his script tells him Israel-good, Palestine-bad, so he only cares about the loss of Israeli lives. Palestinians are not interesting to him.

Tory Deputy Prime Minister Oliver Dowden seems to have no understanding of anything beyond his script.

Here, in an appearance on LBC radio, he complains about the ‘From the River to the Sea’ chant being offensive to Jews – without understanding that it is likely to have been made offensive to them by an Israeli propaganda campaign in 1967.

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He goes on to say that we should be outraged at the loss of more than 1,000 Israeli lives – but has nothing to say about the 9,000 Palestinian lives, including those of 3,000 children, that had been lost to cold-blooded Israeli shelling since October 7:

It seems Israeli propaganda – and Israeli lives – mean more to this politician than the facts.


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