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Keir Starmer signs up to Board of Deputies’ hate campaign against Roger Waters [STRONG LANGUAGE]

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Keir Starmer: as a barrister, did it never occur to him to examine the evidence?

If you’re a long-term reader of Vox Political, you’ll already know what’s going on here, and that it has been going on for a very long time.

If you’re not, and you’ve believed all the claptrap that has been thrown at people who (in this instance) object – we don’t have to put it any stronger than that – to the hatred practised every day by the government of Israel and its propagandists across the world, then prepare to be amazed.

Either way, please take the time to watch the following video clip in which Roger Waters, the latest high-profile victim of a fake anti-Semitism narrative, explains why it is nonsense and how he feels about being targeted in this way.

Be warned – he doesn’t mince his words:

It has just been revealed that the Board of Deputies of British Jews – one of the propaganda organisations mentioned above – wrote to leading politicians in the Conservative and Labour parties, seeking support for false accusations against Mr Waters.

Among those who were happy to lend their name to this hate campaign was Labour leader Keir Starmer:

Look at what he wrote to BoD President Marie Van Der Zyl [boldings mine]:

I found the examples listed in your letter, of instances in which Roger Waters has clearly espoused antisemitic views to his audiences, highly disturbing.

Which instances were these? Can Starmer quote what these instances were? Can he point us to audio-visual evidence of these instances that took place at well-attended concerts full of mobile phone-wielding fans?

Were they similar to the segments of the show that Mr Waters himself mentioned in the interview above – that clearly did not espouse anti-Semitism in any way?

Starmer wrote:

Those that hide behind the excuse that artists in the entertainment industry should not be held to the same standards as others are utterly wrong. There should be no artistic licence for discrimination or racism.

When did Roger Waters ever hide behind any such excuse? Can Starmer point us to audio-visual evidence of him doing so? Or is it more accurate that he has never done anything of the sort?

Roger Waters… is now synonymous with spreading deeply troubling antisemitism.

Can Starmer demonstrate to us even one moment in which Roger Waters has done any such thing? I’m willing to bet real money that he can’t.

Views like this should not be given a platform.

That depends on what views Starmer was told had been espoused by Roger Waters. It is entirely possible that such views should not be given a platform. But it is extremely unlikely that Roger Waters ever did so.

Put it all together and it seems that Keir Starmer – a barrister who was once Director of Public Prosecutions – couldn’t be bothered to gather any evidence and weigh it up.

Perhaps he was busy expelling more Jews from the Labour Party and simply didn’t have the time.

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Lies by anti-Semitism fakers lead to violence at Roger Waters concert

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Show us the Star of David on this pig, then: it isn’t there. The inflatable pig flown over Roger Waters’s concerts is used to highlight current issues but does not bear the symbol of Judaism. Other claims about his concerts are also lies and anybody considering disrupting them on that basis should bear in mind that THEY would be spreading hate if they did so.

This is what happens when people allow themselves to be misled by liars:

The clip shows German people who had attended a concert by Roger Waters reacting to activists who had believed lies that the musician is anti-Semitic and tried to disrupt the music and spoil everybody else’s enjoyment of the show.

The people trying to wave the flag of Israel and shout accusations had been influenced by lies stating that the show includes an inflatable pig with the Star of David on it (it doesn’t), that Waters equates the state of Israel with Nazism by linking Anne Frank and Shireen Abu Akley (he doesn’t; the connection he describes is between two people who were both killed by invading foreign political regimes), and that at one point Roger Waters himself dresses as a Nazi soldier and fires a machine gun into the crowd (he doesn’t; at that point in the show he is playing the character Pink, from Pink Floyd’s album The Wall, who suffers with drug-fuelled delusions that he is a fascist leader).

These lies have been propogated across the mass and social media and, in one case, in the UK Parliament, by people who should know better. Indeed, it is most likely that they do know better – they simply chose to spread the lies for their own – political – purposes.

The people who caused the disturbances at the concert – and anybody who has even considered doing the same elsewhere – would use their time better if they challenged the liars to explain exactly why they have lied about this musician.

Is it because he has always – peacefully – opposed the kind of hatred that they, themselves, are trying to foment?

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Tory turned Labour MP lies about Roger Waters and has his *rse handed to him

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No anti-Semitism here: this shot from Roger Waters’s Berlin concert shows the flying pig (from the cover of the Pink Floyd album ‘Animals’. It is emblazoned with many slogans but not with the Star of David, as liars have claimed.

I wonder if Keir Starmer put Christian Wakeford up to this.

In the House of Commons last Thursday, he lied to his fellow MPs as follows:

“Roger Waters is due to play at the AO Arena in Manchester next month. Mr Waters performed in Berlin this week and used the name of Anne Frank to stoke division, performed while dressed as an SS soldier and used the star of David on a giant pig to insinuate that Jewish people run the world, forcing the Jewish Representative Council of Greater Manchester to issue a statement condemning his divisive actions. Will the Leader of the House agree that such concerts have no place in our society and should not go ahead? Will she agree to a debate in Government time on the record levels of anti-Jewish hatred in this country?”

None of what Wakeford said about Roger Waters’s performance was true. Not a single word.

This Site has already addressed the mention of Anne Frank, whose name was mentioned in connection with that of murdered Palestinian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh. I’ll repeat it here, for anybody coming late to this scandal:

The claim is that this is anti-Semitic because it links Israel with Nazism (Shireen Abu Akleh was shot dead by Israeli military forces and Anne Frank died in a Nazi concentration camp).

it seems far more likely that the musician was linking Jewish people with Palestinians by pointing out that both races have suffered oppression – the former historically and the latter currently.

In both cases, their only crime (according to the on-screen verbiage) was belonging to a race that a foreign political regime had chosen to oppress, and in both cases the result was the same: death.

As for the pig… Here’s Alex Nunns:

He’s mistaken on that last point; we need to engage with that stupidity in order to shut it down. Fortunately, Twitter itself has been on hand to set the false claim right:

The material Roger Waters is performing has been a part of popular culture for nearly half a century and has not been questioned before. There’s a very easy answer to the question, “Why now?”

Roger Waters himself has made the following statement:

The statement reads:

“My recent performance in Berlin has attracted bad faith attacks from those who want to smear and silence me because they disagree with my political views and moral principles.

“The elements of my performance that have been questioned are quite clearly a statement in opposition to fascism, injustice, and bigotry in all its forms. Attempts to portray those elements as something else are disingenuous and politically motivated. The depiction of an unhinged fascist demagogue has been a feature of my shows since Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” in 1980.

“I have spent my entire life speaking out against authoritarianism and oppression wherever I see it. When I was a child after the war, the name of Anne Frank was often spoken in our house, she became a permanent reminder of what happens when fascism is left unchecked. My parents fought the Nazis in World War II, with my father paying the ultimate price.

“Regardless of the consequences of the attacks against me, I will continue to condemn injustice and all those who perpetrate it.”

So there you have it. No Star of David on the pig, no anti-Semitism in the show. Just a lot of hatred stirred up against a man whose father died fighting the Nazis, and all of it politically-motivated.

All of it could have been disproved by broadcasters (and, indeed, political party leaderships), simply by watching video of the show. Here, I’ll show you how easy it is:

And that brings us back to Christian Wakeford.

There is no excuse for him to have brought these lies about one of the UK’s pop music – indeed, pop culture – legends to Parliament. The facts were available to him before he spoke in the House of Commons.

So either he was ignorant of the facts, which makes him too stupid to be a member of Parliament because he did not do his research properly, and he should make a statement to the Commons, correcting the record…

Or he was deliberately lying, in which case the Speaker should launch proceedings against him for contempt of Parliament and an investigation should take place with possible expulsion as the most extreme sanction against him.

And in the background, I wonder if somebody else put him up to it. Labour leader Keir Starmer is known to be influenced by those lobbyists who scream “anti-Semitism!” at every opportunity.

What’s his role in this? Did he authorise Wakeford to make his statement? Did he ask him to?

And what’s the best thing we can say about Starmer, Wakeford and their party, in the context of this controversy?

Is it that they are just another brick in the wall?

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Are Roger Waters’ Germany concerts really anti-Semitic?

Many may say it’s not my business to judge, because I haven’t attended any of these shows.

But then, it seems many are also being influenced by strongly pro-Israeli writers on the social media, and I dare say their opinions will be treated as valid. Either way, if my conclusions are inaccurate I’m ready to stand corrected by anybody with a well-reasoned argument.

The complaint is that former Pink Floyd frontman Roger Waters has displayed anti-Semitism in his current tour, with the latest shows in Germany attracting particularly strong criticism.

A show in Frankfurt was cancelled at one point, due to concerns that had been raised – but Waters took the matter to court and the event was reinstated. This suggests there is no legal basis for the claim made against these performances.

If there were, then it seems enormously unlikely that they would be allowed to take place in Germany, a country that may be (perhaps should be) forever in penitance for the genuine anti-Semitism, persecution and genocide of Jewish people during the 12 years of Nazi government there.

Part of the show that has attracted particular attention is a moment when the names of Palestinian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh and world-famous diarist Anne Frank were projected on screens around the stage (see above).

The claim is that this is anti-Semitic because it links Israel with Nazism (Shireen Abu Akleh was shot dead by Israeli military forces and Anne Frank died in a Nazi concentration camp).

But is the government of Israel really every Jew? If so, are we to take it that the Nazis of 1933-45 are representative of every German in 2023? That is the logical supposition behind the claim. I tend to believe that it fails because Germans would not attend a performance by anybody who makes such a claim about them.

To me, it seems far more likely that the musician was linking Jewish people with Palestinians by pointing out that both races have suffered oppression – the former historically and the latter currently.

In both cases, their only crime (according to the on-screen verbiage) was belonging to a race that a foreign political regime had chosen to oppress, and in both cases the result was the same: death.

I’m aware that many say any comparison between the activities of anybody who is Jewish and those of the Nazis is an act of anti-Semitism but this makes it too easy to whitewash unacceptable acts of violence like the killing of Shireen Abu Akleh.

If the activities of the Israeli Defence Force are comparable in any way with those of the Nazis, then any such similarities need to be dragged under the spotlight and examined because if they were found to be accurate, then it would be the Israeli military who had betrayed their fellow Jews by acting in that way – not anybody who pointed out what they were doing.

Nobody could suggest that those people were acting on behalf of all Jews by (in this example) killing a Palestinian journalist and be taken seriously.

A further criticism of the show is that Roger Waters appears to don a Nazi uniform and mime firing a machine gun into the audience. This is supposed to demonstrate sympathy for the Nazis.

But, again, this claim is not supportable. In a show that attacks Nazi atrocities like the oppression and eventual death of Anne Frank, it is not reasonable to suggest that the performer is himself a Nazi sympathiser.

Instead, I question the motives of those making the accusations. They have no factual grounds on which to base their claims. It seems to me that they are simply trying to stir up an emotional response instead – mass hysteria if you like – against Roger Waters.

I wonder why they would want to do such a thing. What do you think?

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#Tories are ignoring the message of the #NorthShropshire by-election – but YOU can bring it home to them


It must take years – maybe decades – of practice to be this ignorant.

After Liberal Democrat Helen Morgan humiliated the Conservatives in one of their heartlands – North Shropshire, defeating their candidate with the seventh-biggest vote swing in by-election victory, Tory chairman Oliver Dowden appeared on the morning media round, telling us all that his party had heard voters’ message “loud and clear”.

He then demonstrated, loud and clear, that his party was ignoring the message of the by-election and would carry on as though nothing had happened.

According to the Mirror,

he claimed the circumstances were “unique” and Boris Johnson “has the vision to get us through this period. He added: “Voters are clearly fed up and they want us to get on with the job and focus on the job.”

Oh, really?

On BBC Breakfast, Dowden said, “Voters … were fed up with a byelection that was called because of sleaze allegations; they were fed up with all the sort of stories that are going on at the moment.”

Elsewhere, 78-year-old Tory veteran Sir Roger Gale told the BBC’s Today programme that Boris Johnson had taken “two strikes” this week, with his own party’s rebellion against him over new Covid-battling measures and the by-election: “One more strike and he’s out.”

He said: “The Conservative Party has a reputation for not taking prisoners. If the Prime Minister fails the Prime Minister goes.

“We got rid of a good Prime Minister to install Mr Johnson.” [If he really thinks that, then perhaps he should go, too. Theresa May was considered the worst British prime minister since Lord North.]

“Mr Johnson has to prove he’s capable of being a good Prime Minister, and at the moment it’s quite clear the public don’t think that’s the case.”

Clearly, even though he was taking a harder line, this MP was showing that he hasn’t got the message either.

Voters don’t want Boris Johnson to have another chance because they know he’ll only mess it up and create worse problems for us. We want him to go now.

On the social media, members of the public are sending messages to their Tory MPs, saying Johnson has done enough harm to the UK – after the by-election result was announced, they were being called “unforced errors”.

Certainly the scandals over his alleged Christmas parties, over his redecoration of the Downing Street flat he occupies, and over corruption (that led to the resignation of Owen Paterson and the calling of the North Shropshire election) were all such “unforced errors”.

And while Dowden was happy to trot out the sad old 2019 election line that Johnson managed to “get Brexit done”, we now know that his Brexit is a huge attack on our living standards that will reduce the UK economy by four per cent – double the effect of the Covid pandemic that caused whole industries to collapse overnight.

This Writer would certainly encourage anybody who’s had enough of Johnson to write to their MP – if that person is a Tory – and ask them to hand a letter of ‘no confidence’ in to the chair of the backbench 1922 Committee, who will call a vote on it if 54 such notes are received.

You can contact your MP via WriteToThem.com.

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Tory MPs face suspension – for ONE DAY – after trying to pervert the course of justice. Why aren’t they in jail?

One law for them: five Tory MPs are being disciplined by a Parliamentary watchdog after they tried to influence the trial of a colleague. That is a crime. Why aren’t they in jail?

We know the reason but I’ll get to it shortly.

The Commons Standards Committee has found that five Conservative MPs breached Parliament’s code of conduct by trying to influence legal proceedings against a colleague:

Theresa Villiers, Natalie Elphicke, Sir Roger Gale, Adam Holloway and Bob Stewart wrote letters regarding ex-MP Charlie Elphicke, who was convicted of sex offences.

The letters on Commons notepaper were addressed to senior judges.

Three of the MPs could be suspended from Parliament for one day.

Ms Villiers, Mrs Elphicke and Sir Roger face suspension, while Mr Holloway and Col Stewart have been told to apologise by the Commons Standards Committee.

Attempting to influence legal proceedings is a crime. These MPs should be facing criminal trial and imprisonment, not suspension from Parliament for a single day.

The way they are being treated is an insult to British justice.

Ah, but the police force that would handle any complaint is the Metropolitan Police, which is run by Cressida Dick. There’s no way any Tory MP will face justice on her watch!

In any case, police are discouraged from prosecuting any member of Parliament at all, under any circumstances. Charlie Elphicke was an exception in which – as I understand it – it was impossible not to take action.

He was the exception that proves the rule that they really are above the law.

Source: Five Tory MPs found to have breached code of conduct – BBC News

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