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Javid’s vaccination coercion will increase NHS staff shortages

Covid Javid: he’s trying to force something into the bodies of frontline NHS staff. Many will see this as a form of attempted rape – which it is – and quit. And NHS staffing will worsen. Wouldn’t it be better simply to change their jobs so unvaccinated people aren’t on the front line?

We could all see this coming. For a party that insists it values choice above all things, the Tories love forcing people to accept what they don’t want.

So Sajid Javid is forcing all NHS frontline workers to have Covid-19 vaccination injections, whether they want them or not.

We have discussed this subject previously on This Site. I made it perfectly clear that I am double-jabbed – and I intend to have the booster injection when it is offered to me, even though I know it will make me feel very ill for several days.

Nevertheless, I was attacked as an anti-vaxxer by several ignorant souls after I stated that this has been my personal choice, and there is no possible argument strong enough to rob other people of their own choice.

Javid cannot force people to have the injection. That would be forcing them to have a foreign object inside their body against their will, which is analogous to rape. I do not use the comparison lightly and anybody who criticises another person for making it fails to understand the seriousness of the issue here.

The alternative to taking the injection, it seems, is expulsion from the National Health Service.

Who does that help?

It won’t help patients because there will be fewer staff available to treat them and waiting lists will become longer.

It will help those who want to privatise the NHS altogether because they’ll have a stronger (albeit as false as ever) argument that it cannot cope and private firms should be brought in to take up the slack.

Is that Javid’s ulterior motive? Probably.

A simpler solution would be to move staff who won’t accept the injection away from frontline duties. That would be the safer option for all concerned in any event and should have happened as soon as a vaccine became available. I wonder why nobody has bothered to implement it until now.

Other staff could have been trained up – or hired in (remember, the NHS currently has a shortage of many thousands of nurses and doctors).

If a solution isn’t found and people are forced to choose between the injection and the loss of their job, then that will be coercion and I would strongly encourage victims of such intimidation to take the Health Secretary to court for attempting the criminal activity named above.

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Should vaccination be compulsory? Not on these arguments! [Vox Political Debate]

Jabber Johnson: Boris Johnson has invested everything in the efficacy of the Covid-19 vaccinations – but a quarter of new infections are in people who have had both injections.

Should working people be forced to have one of the Covid-19 vaccines, on pain of losing their jobs if they refuse?

The question was debated on Politics Live last Thursday – and gave rise to an interesting discussion on Twitter.

The headline findings are: there are no good reasons for forcing vaccination on anybody. Your body is your own and nobody should be allowed to tell you what you do with it, put in it or take out of it.

Would you order a woman to have an abortion if she didn’t want to, for no other reason than that it would make you feel better?

That’s what it comes down to, in this case as well.

Forcing somebody else to vaccinate will not make it less likely that you will catch Covid-19, because vaccination does not stop people contracting or transmitting the virus.

In fact:

If vaccination was made compulsory, you would be more likely to catch it – because people would think they were better-protected than would be the case.

And the attitude and arguments of those who supported forcing people to vaccinate is a real eye-opener. See for yourself. Here’s how I started:

Now read the discussion:

Hmm. No answer to that.

Let’s see what else people had to say…

Charming!

But it is a correct conclusion. David Barry had admitted that the likelihood of catching the virus does not depend on who has been vaccinated, and the seriousness of the case depends, not only on whether the transmitter was vaccinated but on the contractor’s physical constitution.

I repeat: Forcing people to vaccinate will not stop anybody else contracting the virus; it’s not what the vaccine does.

Again, no answer.

The next person eventually blocked me because I countered their arguments logically. Fortunately we can see Ace Socialist’s tweets here:

And of course, whether the transmitting person had been vaccinated makes no difference to whether the effects on me are greatly reduced if I have been vaccinated. This person had provided no evidence at all to prove that other people should be forced to have the jab.

Then the conversation took a sinister turn. Consider the falseness of the following argument. I wasn’t referring only to the risk to me; people in care homes have all been vaccinated now (apart from those who have refused it for their own reasons) so the risk to them has also been reduced, by as much as is possible.

As I understand it, the decision on whether children have vaccinations is made by their parents/guardians (collectively). So Ace’s argument below is false:

That’s right – those laws say their parents/guardians make those decisions until they are old enough to make them for themselves. They do not say that the government or any other exterior organisation can take those decisions away.

Those are the arguments I have seen and they are not persuasive.

If you have a better argument for forcing an action on another person against their wishes, I’d like to know what it is.

At the moment, it seems the only reason for it – that makes any sense – is the desire to exert power over someone else.

That road leads to Nuremberg.

ADDITIONAL: And what about “vaccine passports”? If being vaccinated doesn’t stop anybody being infected, then it can’t be used as justification for attending large events in close contact with other people; the possibility of infecting many of them remains as high as if nobody there had had the jab at all. Right?

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Top-priority groups for vaccination set to have had their jabs by next week – but not all nurses. WHY?

This is insanity.

I’ve raised it before – and had some very strange responses: there is no sense in vaccinating millions of people against Covid-19 if NHS workers like nurses – who are more likely to meet the infected than anyone – don’t get their jabs.

I can only hope that somebody made sure the people actually administering the injections have had their own but even that can’t be guaranteed with the Tory lunatics in charge.

The Tories had promised to immunise all 15 million people in the top four priority groups by next Monday (February 15). The media are reporting that they are in danger of missing that deadline – but Tory decisions already mean it is well and truly missed.

The decision to concentrate on giving only one jab and then making people wait 12 weeks means people simply aren’t being immunised; Pfizer is on the record as saying waiting longer than six weeks renders the first injection void.

And now we find that up to 75,000 nurses have been overlooked, meaning they could contract the virus themselves or – worse – infect patients.

Here’s The Guardian:

A Royal College of Nursing (RCN) survey of 24,370 nurses found that 85% had had at least one dose, with the remaining 15% unvaccinated.

The RCN said scaling that 15% up to its 450,000-strong membership suggested an estimated 75,000 nurses had still not had their initial jab.

“It is extremely worrying that, as our survey suggests, many thousands of nursing staff have yet to be given their Covid-19 vaccine less than a week before the government’s deadline,” said Dame Donna Kinnair, the RCN’s chief executive and general secretary.

“With only days to go, every effort must be made to reach all nursing staff to ensure their protection and that of the patients and vulnerable people they care for.”

The college said it was critical that all nurses had a Covid vaccine so that they, their families and patients were protected, adding that any nurse left unvaccinated was “a risk to themselves and those they care for”.

Absolutely correct.

The Tories are, of course, extremely relaxed about the system. Well, why shouldn’t they be? They’ve already killed off more than 100,000 of us so they’re unlikely to be worried about many more, even if they are much-needed medical professionals.

The government spokesperson didn’t even mention nurses in response to the Guardian‘s request for a comment:

The Department of Health and Social Care said it was following the joint committee on vaccination and immunisation’s advice and would have offered everyone in the top four priority groups a vaccine by next week.

A spokesperson said: “This includes temporary, agency and voluntary workers who are at an increased risk of contracting or transmitting the virus to other people particularly vulnerable to Covid-19, as well as to other staff in a healthcare environment.

“The NHS is working at pace to vaccinate these groups and we are on track to offer a vaccination to everyone in these first four priority groups by mid-February.”

If they can’t even refer to nurses directly, it gives This Writer no confidence at all that they’ll actually do any of the things they claim. And you?

Source: Covid vaccine: tens of thousands of UK nurses yet to receive first dose | Society | The Guardian

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Now we have a vaccine, Boris Johnson is messing with it. Hasn’t he done enough harm?

Only in Tory Britain would a government approve a vaccine, then ensure that people don’t get the doses they need.

The makers of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine have issued a warning about “alternative dosing” after the UK’s chief medical officers approved a change in guidance.

Now, instead of providing the second – booster – dose of the vaccine three weeks after the first injection, the jabs may be delivered up to 12 weeks later (nearly three months).

A spokesperson said: “There are no data to demonstrate that protection after the first dose is sustained after 21 days.”

The diffference has sparked something of a war of words between the chemists and Chris Whitty. His organisation said:

In terms of protecting priority groups, a model where we can vaccinate twice the number of people in the next 2-3 months is obviously much more preferable in public health terms than one where we vaccinate half the number but with only slightly greater protection.

But that’s not what Pfizer is saying.

The claim is that providing the booster jab so late means there will be no protection from Covid-19 at all.

It seems Boris Johnson is offering people the illusion of protection, while in fact making us more vulnerable to infection (because people who’ve had one jab will think they are safe when in fact – according to Pfizer – they aren’t).

And there is even a suggestion that doctors will be asked to mix vaccines, so that people who have had the first Pfizer/BioNTech dose might get the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab as their second. What possible good will that do? They aren’t the same.

Doctors are complaining because they have been told to mess the most vulnerable people in the UK around – contacting them to say their booster shots have been delayed.

The move has prompted criticisms that this is a public relations con by the Conservative government. The reasoning is clear and obvious:

It looks much better to say a million people have been vaccinated (albeit with one shot) than that half a million people have had the full protection of the initial injection and the booster.

And here’s Matt Hancock:

The Health Secretary Matt Hancock said one million people have been given the first dose of the coronavirus vaccine in the UK.

It’s clear that the critics have a good point.

And what will Boris Johnson say if a person who’s had the inoculation catches Covid and dies? “Bah!” isn’t going to impress anybody.

Source: COVID-19: Chief medical officer Chris Whitty warns coronavirus vaccine shortages will last months | UK News | Sky News

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Care home residents told they can’t have vaccine unless they get on a bus

Frail residents of care homes across the UK are being told they can’t have the new Covid-19 vaccine unless they get on a bus to the hospitals where the jabs are being administered.

Apparently storage conditions mean they can’t have the injections in their care homes – but their physical condition means they can’t take the trip to hospital either.

Isn’t this going to cause yet another Covid care home scandal?

Covid vaccine plans for frail care home residents were in chaos tonight after they were told: Get on the bus.

The Government says they will have to travel to hospital hubs for the jab but angry care bosses said: “There’s no way they can do that.”

Care homes fear vaccines won’t be delivered to them until next year despite Government promises they would be a priority.

The vaccine must be transported at minus 70C, and can only be kept outside ultra-cold storage for a few days.

This means 50 hospital hubs in England will receive the first batch before GPs start delivering the vaccine in the community from December 14.

The complex logistical issues mean there are fears some of the most vulnerable in care homes will miss out if they can’t be safely taken to hospital.

Yet again, the Tories fail to think out their stratagy properly.

Yet again, it seems the most vulnerable will pay the price for bull-in-a-china-shop Boris Johnson’s stupidity.

Source: Covid vaccine plans for care home in chaos after frail residents told to ‘get on bus’ – Mirror Online

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