If you’ve voted/are about to vote ‘Leave’, look at the company you’re keeping [STRONG LANGUAGE]
The following are all genuine comments made on the social media and found by This Writer on Twitter, earlier this evening (June 23).
They represent the mood of the ‘Leave’ campaign on referendum day.
If you have voted ‘Leave’, I hope they give you a moment of doubt, at the very least.
If you are considering it, please think very carefully before doing so. You will be in the company of the person who wrote this:
Also the person who wrote this:
Here’s a heartwarming tale from Alex Andreou (@sturdyalex):
“Friend told her little daughter to cover the #Remain sticker she was wearing before going out. For safety. This is our country now”
And here’s another image, with comment from Stella Creasy MP about events in Walthamstow:
“I’m ashamed someone in Walthamstow has done this! Gave man displaying swaztikas opportunity to remove them. He refused and said didn’t care upset people. Police now dealing.” – Stella Creasy.
The Swastika is, of course, the symbol of Nazism. Do you stand with the Nazis?
These people are also all ‘Leave’ voters:
Now, are you still sure about voting ‘Leave’?
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Looks like the New UK is going to get rough with help from the tories
I have voted for the leave side. And I am not a racist. sexist or any other ism. But I do not want anything to do with EU.
You’re exactly the kind of person at whom this article was aimed, then.
How do you feel about the people quoted in the article getting more of what they want, considering the kind of people they are?
A bit like the guy u posted his status to remain earlier he was swearing and being personal
No, he wasn’t being personal. He was swearing, and I edited those words. The profanity was indicative of his anger and frustration at the kind of people quoted in this article and their blinkered attitude.
The comments are all a little sad! Harvey
Yes he was he was calling people f*** with racist and saying they need to grow up so yes that is personal
He wasn’t.
He was satirising all the regressives who think we can return to an age in which ‘British is best’; who think all our economic problems can be solved with a bet at the bookies (or the macroeconomic equivalent – leaving the EU); who think it’s okay to behave like Nazis – transporting anyone who isn’t ‘one of us’ elsewhere, or to be exterminated (that’s what Nigel holding a long pipe “rather like the pipe that takes the gas into your oven” is all about). The “few English people with heavy suntans” is a reference to the ‘Go home’ adverts Theresa May tried out in London a few years ago, and the fact that UK citizens were being reported to police as illegal immigrants because they “looked foreign” or whatever the excuse was. Boris takes the foreign-made parts out of his plane so it doesn’t work any more, which is a metaphor for what will happen in the UK if we ‘Leave’ the EU.
It’s satire. If we Leave, it’s likely the economy will crash, and the ones who’ll suffer most will be the people who chose to believe the Boris Johnson’s and Nigel Farages – who ignored expert advice because they wanted to appeal to the prejudices of the people who wanted Johnny Foreigner out. People like those whose tweets appear in this article, and the photograph of the house festooned with Swastikas.
Yes, those people need to grow up.
Yes, those people need to wake up.
And yes, those people deserve the description he gave them.
If you don’t like it then – as the headline states – look at the company you’re keeping.
Why on Earth are you trying to justify these people and the things they have been doing?
What did you think of the ‘Leave’ supporters who flew a plane with a ‘Leave’ slogan over the memorial for Jo Cox?
Dear Mike,
I generally agree with you on most of what you say but there is good and bad on both sides of any argument.
You will always get obnoxious comments and a few unrepresentative comments from one side ( assuming that’s where they came from) should not be enough to condemn the whole argument .
You have to always keep in mind that
“One Swallow does not make a summer”
The ‘Leave’ argument was already long-buried by the time I wrote this.
There isn’t any strong argument that can be used in favour of ‘Leave’.
That’s why that campaign went heavily for xenophobia and lies about the amount of money we pay and the amount of bureaucracy we get in return.
And THAT is why the ‘Leave’ campaign is represented on the social media by people of the kind I quoted in the article.
I wanted to point out to people who were considering a ‘Leave’ vote, exactly what they are supporting. Having already criticised the arguments, it was past time I pointed out what ‘Leave’ supporters’ bedfellows were.
All that I will say is that many of the people who voted us in want us to leave. I don’t doubt that many lesser educated (judging from some of the spelling) persons have been given a cause through which to vent their frustration. I don’t see racism here but there is clearly xenophobia and a great deal of anger. People are voting to leave for many reasons, immigration is but one and not all Brexiteers are bothered by it; I am with one such now.
As I said, we were not being asked to vote on immigration, the economy, security, or sovereignty but on our membership of the institution that is the European Union. If we, the public, were given enough information and the right sort of information, the tone of the referendum would have been completely different.
I blame BOTH campaigns. They have created a nasty atmosphere of lies, spin and fear and have played on people’s emotions. Well, this is what you get, when you rely on such methods. It may have been in our politicians interests not to dismiss the concerns of the public. I’m not saying that I agree with what has been written, in the slightest and anybody who even suggests that any person deserves to be sexually abused needs to be dealt with by the police. There is NO excuse for that; none whatsoever.
The important thing to remember is that our votes are personal. We are not voting for, or because of anybody else. We and we alone are responsible for our votes. We are not responsible for the thoughts of others, especially of people whom we don’t know and am not likely to meet.
You are, of course, commenting on nobody’s behalf but your own, then.
Many others have very clearly voted according to who else was voting a particular way, or according to widely-held prejudices that had no factual support.
Of course, I can speak but for myself, although I may give examples of those with whom I have conversed and I have grilled many supporters on both sides of the argument, in an attempt to get them to justify their decisions to themselves and to give some idea as to what other people value as important and how much of what they have heard they have verified, or simply taken at face value.
Yes, you are correct, regarding the way that many people voted and this is my big problem with this referendum. I think that had people been given the facts that they actually required, the debate, the discourse, for sure, would have been different and perhaps the result, too. I think that the Bremainers were too complacent and assumed that people would not vote for change and sadly, didn’t sell the E.U. What we have is demagogy, not democracy. Had the electorate been given some context, it may have been able to make up its own mind, based on the evidence, rather than being swayed by emotion and fear, which, however we look at it, came from both sides. “Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
I tried to get as much information as I could, because, like most of us, I was clueless and encouraged others to do the same; I posted everything that I found on facebook, even the treaties, so that people could see for themselves and make up their own minds. This is what our politicians should have done.
I have promised, on my facebook page, to continue to post things that I find. It is important that we are actively engaged with our politics and if this referendum has shown us anything, it is that we have become so divorced from things of such import that we are ripe for manipulation. The E.U. was in another world, until we were asked to vote on our future in it. This must never happen again.
We’re leaving the EU, Mike. If Jeremy Corbyn had been as passionate about remaining in the EU as you have been perhaps this wouldn’t be the case. Thanks, Jezza.
Oh, come on. You can’t blame Corbyn when the focus only shifted to him after Cameron had well and truly fouled up the ‘Remain’ campaign. Cameron also had to take responsibility for starting this fiasco in the first place.
I think the mainstream media have a lot of explaining to do.
How is it Jeremy Corbyn’s fault? The people voted. The media were not interested, to the extent that they were more concerned with that Kuenssberg woman being booed than they were with what he had to say. Jeremy Corbyn was not newsworthy; all that we saw and heard was “Blue On Blue.” I’m surprised that nobody used the song! The fault lies with David Cameron. He brought forward the date of the referendum, twice but did not give us the information that we actually required. He did not sell the E.U. He relied on people sticking with what they know. He did not take people’s concerns seriously. The media spotlight only turned to Jeremy Corbyn after Call-Me-Dave realised, albeit a little late, that he had become toxic to the debate. Furthermore, some people seem to be of the belief that people were voting according to their party. Not so This was not a party political choice.
Don’t let the media play you. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture. who, of that Westminster lot, do you trust to tell you that your flies are undone?
I feel the whole country has been demeaned and diminished by the pandering to xenophobia and racial hatred. A very sad day which sends the message to the world that Britain is incapable of cooperating with even its neighbours.
I’m not racist, I love the cultural diversity of the UK. However, I voted leave. The destruction of the Greek economy is horrific, the Greek people have done their utmost to resist the looting of their country, yet the barbaric austerity measures were forced on them regardless. If this is what ‘European union’ is all about, to me, it is undemocratic, and worthless. I believe that all Europeans are better off without the EU. My leave vote was a show of solidarity with the Greeks and any other European whose forced austerity measures have adversely affected their quality of life. I stand shoulder to shoulder with those who have suffered under the EU corporate fascism, and I strongly object to being compared to the xenophobic cretins whose idiotic opinions have been shown in this article.
I’ll be interested to see whether you hold the same beliefs in six months’ or a year’s time, as the effects make themselves felt.
It’s over, Mike. Brexit has triumphed and some of the blame for this pyrrhic victory must go to Jeremy Corbyn. My expectation is that Labour will try to dump this loser in the very near future. I know that you filter out a lot of comments critical of your hero and write this in the full knowledge that only you will see it but your support for Corbyn is tragically and utterly mistaken. This dreary charmless man is a lost cause likely to do even worse than Ed Miliband as Labour leader in any general election. You can gag people like me on your own blog but can’t make rivers run uphill or turn Jeremy Corbyn into a plausible candidate for Prime Minister. It’s so sad to see so many good Labour people burying their heads in the sand, like Ostriches, while the fortunes and future of the party go to hell in a hand basket.
Out of the EU today with Scotland looking likely to leave the UK sometime soon.
What a sad day.
I don’t filter out comments that are critical of anyone unless they are abusive or simply have nothing constructive to say.
Corbyn ran a constructive campaign that focused on fact, rather than inflammatory language, and he can hold his head high because that was the right thing.
The Labour voters who supported ‘Leave’ did so because they felt they had been ignored by successive administrations – none of which included Mr Corbyn among their ministers. We’ve already seen that they’ve shot themselves in the foot because large employers like Nissan and Honda are preparing to quit the UK as a result of the choices of Sunderland and Swindon, for example.
So don’t confuse a protest vote against governments with a rebellion against the Labour leader.
I notice that, rather than find any factual content to support your anti-Corbyn claims, you have fallen back on the same evidenceless, emotive language that led to today’s result.
Wait until people find that the money we spend on the EU won’t be coming back to support our hospitals and other services, that it wasn’t the EU squeezing them for cash but rich Conservative ministers in Westminster, and that their vote has made the situation worse.
How is it Jeremy Corbyn’s fault? It was Cameron who called the referendum. Who were the official spokespersons for the leave campaign? People voted to leave for myriad reasons. I didn’t see this referendum as party political but as personal so, I was not swayed by any of the arguments, I had to do my own research and come to my own conclusions. I really don’t see how Jeremy Corbyn can be to blame. Chris Bryant (recently resigned) said that he didn’t make £abour’s position clear. I don’t know on which planet he was. It was patently clear where £abour’s position was. It just happened that many persons happened not to share that view, as it permitted within a democracy. We are not all sheep and do not all vote because we are told to. Jeremy did his bit and the rest was up to us. The buck stops with the Prime Minister. Oh, yes, he want to jump ship! As for the Scots, they had to opportunity to be independent but chose to remain a part of the U.K. Being a part of the U.K. includes dealing with bad times, as well as good ones. We can’t all get our own way and seldom, if ever, do. I didn’t want this government but I’ve had to suffer it. That’s life in a democracy.
All good points (although I don’t think you should use the £ sign when referring to Labour).
Here’s another: People can choose to vote (or not) at referenda. They can also vote for wrong or inaccurate reasons (because they have been misinformed or are labouring under a false impression). That is, in fact, what many people are now saying happened to them.
Hallo. Sorry, I always use £ as a capital el. Aye, people can vote for the wrong reasons and with something so monumental, our government should have given us the information that we needed, not what it wanted us to know. I hate to sound harsh but we know that politicians are untrustworthy. We know that they were telling us things that they cannot possibly have known. With that in mind, I accepted nothing at face value. Everything was propaganda and needed to be verified. This was too important a decision for me not to know what I was doing. If we knew about the E.U., there would have been some context to the debate and people would have been able to make up their own minds, rather than being led like rats by the Pied Piper. I felt that I didn’t know enough so, I wrote to both campaigns and several politicians, one of whom is our Minister For Europe. I shared everything that I found and debated hard with people, as much for my sake as theirs. I wanted to be sure that when I walked out of the polling booth, I could look the world in the face and say that I did what I did for the right reasons, not because somebody told me to; there was simply too much as stake for me not to.
Article 50 can’t be invoked without Parliament’s consent and given the Tories’ paper-thin majority that might not actually happen, particularly as an October General Election is now on the cards. Hopefully we’ll then have a Labour administration with Cameron’s vanity referendum being dead in the water. Labour must stop fighting like a sack of rabid rats and present a unified front. First job should be ditching Mandelslime.
“I don’t filter out comments that are critical of anyone unless they are abusive or simply have nothing constructive to say.”
Maybe not but I made a post on the 1st of June, making some points about the failures of the EU and I did invite you to give some positives. It was in the article about a “Nazi sympathiser”
My post is still awaiting moderation. Ignoring me?
Your continued posts about the strange people who were voting leave were pointless. That wasn’t anything to do with the issue. I wanted to know the good points of the EU. I’ve not seen many. Although I have been away in France and maybe missed something.
If you’ve been in France, I think you must know many of the EU’s good points through experience.