Jeremy Corbyn wins backing of most local Labour parties – so right-whingers start spinning…
They’re saying the percentage of Constituency Labour Party nominations going to each candidate in the Labour leadership election isn’t representative because not every CLP has nominated.
Oh very clever – perhaps they’ve forgotten that many CLPs decided not to nominate due to fears about bullying and abusive behaviour – that were spread by right-whingers from the Anybody But Corbyn brigade?
And have they also forgotten that the result may be considered unreliable in any case, because people like Mr Akehurst have been persuading constituency officers to restrict the number of voters in their nomination meetings?
Labour CLP meetings may be either all-member affairs or delegate-only. Mr Akehurst, in his role as secretary of Progress-linked right-wing party-within-a-party Labour First – he says – has been writing to CLP officers, asking them to make their nomination meetings delegate-only.
“The key thing to note is that this can be done ‘using either an all-member meeting or a meeting of the general committee.’ Therefore if you have a delegate-based GC structure you can decide who to nominate by a vote of GC delegates only,” he wrote in his email.
I put it to him on Twitter: “You wanted to prevent CLP members from nominating their preferred candidate.”
His response? “no I don’t and nowhere in the email does it suggest that.”
So I quoted part of the passage above back to him and told him not to lie.
Then he offered: “that is the traditional way large CLPs take decisions.”
So I gave him a lesson: “It’s not the way many have – until now. It’s denying members the right to nominate.
“Look at Blaenau Gwent: all member meeting in 2015; delegates now. Anti-democratic.
“You are trying to influence people to deny democracy to members.
“And you are doing this to affect the result of the leader election.”
Then he went away – which seems to be the traditional method of admitting defeat in Twitter arguments.
That didn’t stop Mr Akehurst from shooting one last bolt about the CLP nominations.
After figures from 95 per cent of nominating CLPs were released, showing 15,066 votes for Jeremy Corbyn and 7,585 for Owen Smith, Mr Akehurst tweeted: “Aggregated votes cast in CLP nomination mtgs, GMB ballot, Unison ballot: Corbyn 43215, Smith 41274”.
It such a problematic figure that it is hard to know where to start. Votes from nomination meetings weren’t all available, not all CLPs nominated and members were prevented from supporting their preferred candidates in CLPs where the delegate system was employed; more than two trade unions were balloted; and there are other Labour-affiliated organisations not mentioned.
In other words, it’s a meaningless statistic dreamed up to make the Smith camp feel a little better.
The saddest part is, judging from the replies on his Twitter feed, Mr Akehurst has actually convinced people with that drivel.
Jeremy Corbyn has won local party nominations by a landslide in the Labour leadership contest, with 84% of constituency nominations at the final count.
The Labour leader won the support of 285 constituency Labour parties (CLPs), with his rival, Owen Smith, taking just 53 nominations.
Corbyn has more than doubled his support among local parties since the 2015 contest, though there were four candidates then rather than two. In 2015, he won support from 39% of CLPs.
Corbyn’s candidacy has also been endorsed by the two largest trade unions, Unison and Unite, as well as smaller unions such as the train drivers’ representatives Aslef and from Young Labour.
The Jewish Labour Movement also endorsed Smith on Monday, with 92% of its members saying they preferred him to Corbyn.
Source: Jeremy Corbyn wins backing of 84% of local Labour parties | Politics | The Guardian
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My CLP wouldn’t allow a vote on who we would come out in support of. Yet we the members were never asked at any point if this is what we wanted, and as local party meetings have been banned it wasn’t allowed to be up for discussion. So far I’ve had my vote take away, I’ve been called a trot, a Nazi, and I’m being told I’m a member of a cult. Yet I’m allowed no chance to reply, I can’t vote my voice has been silenced. This is not democracy in any way shape or form.
Well at least you managed to get a response from the vermin, all I got was a nice little You have been blocked from following this account at the request of the user. :) I’ve been blocked by better people than this fella.
Meanwhile, in the real world:
“On who would make the best Prime Minister Theresa May leads Jeremy Corbyn by 58% to 12% with YouGov, by 58% to 19% with ComRes. YouGov currently give the Conservatives an 18 point lead on running the economy, when ComRes last asked in March the Tories had a 16 point lead. Looking at MORI’s long term approval trackers Jeremy Corbyn’s net approval rating is minus 41 – already pushing at Ed Miliband’s lowest of minus 44 (and those depths took Miliband years). Corbyn’s favourability rating in ComRes last week was minus 28, worse than everyone else they asked about but Trump. ”
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
What was Margaret Thatcher’s lowest? Minus 56?
It’s amusing that you’re asking us to believe the opinion polls have something to do with the real world. People with experience of YouGov have a lot to say about that, over on the ‘Cameron is most popular UK PM since Thatcher’ comment column.
To be honest I don’t know what Thatcher’s lowest poll rating was but am absolutely sure it wasn’t minus 56 BEFORE she became Prime Minister for the first time. That’s the thing, Mike. Corbyn is not being judged for anything he has actually done or presided over but on what he appears to be to members of the general public PRIOR to offering himself as a candidate to become Prime Minister.
I challenge you, or anybody else, to find a British Prime Minister who polled worse than Corbyn BEFORE being elected to said office for the first time. Historically I don’t know and can’t think of one example of such an extraordinary person.
Of the 40 Constiuencies of Progress MP’s recently outed only 7 held nomination meetings – Corbyn won all of them – were the other 33 barred from nominating in case they too embarrassingly nominated Corbyn?