Tories threaten Cameron with ‘no confidence’ vote over EU referendum
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Some Tory MPs reportedly want David Cameron removed [Image: Getty].
His conduct has fallen well below the standard we should expect of a UK prime minister.
He only called this referendum in an effort to prevent UKIP from gaining in popularity – an effort that has not succeeded as well as he might have hoped.
So some might ask why he bothered having it at all – especially if the majority of the UK supports remaining in the EU, as pollsters are predicting.
Then there is the manner in which he has conducted his ‘Remain’ campaign – and let us remind ourselves that it is separate from the down-to-Earth and fact-based Labour campaign.
I don’t know about you, but I didn’t want to have a flurry of scaremongering speculation forced into my face every day.
Nor did I want to watch the Tory soap opera the mainstream media have presented to the world. If this is a clash of personality, it merely shows that most of the Tory toffs don’t have one.
To sum up:
If ‘Remain’ wins the vote, Cameron should face a vote of ‘no confidence’ for calling the referendum in the first place and running his campaign in such a shoddy manner.
If ‘Leave’ wins the vote, Cameron should face a vote of ‘no confidence’ for losing.
In either eventuality, Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Iain Duncan Smith, George Osborne and all the other ineffectual Tory wannabes should lose any privilege, and certainly their ministerial positions, for unstatespersonlike behaviour.
The only real information in this referendum is what the UK’s membership of the EU gets it, and what is denied to us by that membership.
If we know what we have, then we know what we lose – or may gain – if we leave.
Everything else is speculation. Much is distortion. Some is outright falsehood.
Can you tell the difference? No?
That’s why Cameron will have to face his own vote, and soon.
Dozens of Tory MPs are threatening to topple David Cameron over his handling of the EU referendum.
In the wake of the latest Brexit ‘dodgy’ dossier row, senior party figures said he would have to name a date for his departure if he wanted to avoid a massive bloodletting.
They said even this might not prevent a formal vote of no-confidence after June 23, whatever the poll result.
The plotting followed another day of extraordinary clashes between senior Tory party figures over No 10’s Project Fear strategy. Boris Johnson claimed a Treasury dossier was a ‘hoax’.
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I still maintain that Dodgy Dave has his finger on the pulse! He knows the majority know him to be an inveterate liar, and is using reverse psychology – believing that if he insists he does not want to leave the EU; we, in our perversity, will decide to leave! …..just saying….
Does anyone know of any law, protocol or such like that means even if there is a vote in favour of Brexit it has to be acted upon by the government?
In other words could it just be ignored?
No, it can’t be ignored. A referendum means the decision is put to the electorate and the government must then act on it.
Just checking this with the Cabinet Office as there appears to be some doubt as to whether this is legally binding.
There should of been a vote of no confidence of this pompous, halfwitted buffoon years ago!
He needs to go, step down and resign! I have started a petition to make this happen but I am just a single small voice. Together we can be louder. Sign the petition
http://bit.ly/resignCameronNow
Signed.
What strikes me at this point is how solid data are missing from the debate. Every side has its own numbers few of which are traceable (attributed).
It’s incredibly bichy in a way that insiders will recognise but which has come as a shock to many voters.
Because the issue cuts across the political spectrum there’s all sorts of uncomfortable one night stands taking place like the aftermath of a particularly wild party. Who will Cameron find as his temporary bed fellow? Will Farage wake up alone? Who will pay for all the damage?
David Cameron thought an EU referendum was a vote winner because he knew that millions across the country wanted it. His party went along with it well enough then if it got them the extra votes(which it did). Now they are unhappy? This conduct both by him and his back stabbing party is merely setting the precedent for Labour right wingers to do the same over some policy of JC’s to justify removing him(which they can never do as they will find out to their cost)
I have already mentioned that a great many people(not just the four million who voted UKIP) turned against the then Labour Party, precisely because under Ed Milliband, they decided to hell with the millions of people who wanted a referendum – so much for government by the people. The referendum issue cost the Labour Party dearly in 2015 and was one of the reasons they lost the GE. It’s probably the only promise Dodgy Dave has actually kept and his party want his blood for it? What does that say about the Tory Party if his only failure was delivering on a single promise?
On another note entirely: https://off-guardian.org/2016/05/24/britains-tax-office-hmrc-sold-600-state-owned-buildings-to-offshore-property-company/
Although you will be very aware of it, the dodgy deal which admittedly involves Alistair Darling and his privatisation scheme, does show HMRC’s complicity in aiding and abetting the politicians offshore deals from all sides of the spectrum and the taxpayer foots the bill.
he was right to call for a vote to leave the EU but should not have been able to take part in any of the debates
the reason being is that he will have influenced the vote to stay or he could have wonted to leave and that’s the way the public would have gone
there is no doubt he has been a bad prime minister but there is no one better to replace him and that is very troubling for many
even i myself have great difficulty in coming up with cabinet team that would be good for the uk in 2020 and out of 650 mp’s that is truly shocking
I cant agree it’s right to have an EU vote, who wanted it, other than a load of bickering MP’s. As it stands, on participation, your right, who the hell wants these bi-partisans propaganda. As you say, the most worrying aspect is shuffling the cabinet, who is there to choose from? many are not fit to drive buses, never mind the country. Germany had this problem and look what happened there. The public need to take stock and reinvent democracy if a solution is to be found.
The reason for the referendum is simple – win or lose they can wash their hands of the resulting meltdown as to declaring “We followed the ‘peoples choice’, we warned what would happen”! Not our fault!
And they walk away!
We’re seeing that this won’t happen, though, aren’t we?
To understand why we are having a referendum, we need to understand just how divisive the EU was and is for the Tories. Going into the 2015 general election, Cameron had to include a pledge for a referendum to keep his own party together.
Additionally, under the current terms of the EU treaty, I believe July 2016 was the last possible date on which an in/out referendum could legally be held.
If Cameron had missed the deadline, there would have been real civil war in his own party with plenty of political blood being spilled. Again, Cameron has put party interest before national interest, in his usual oily spiv-like manner.
This saga has always been about keeping the Tory Party together in order for Cameron to stay in power, along with his chosen acolytes.
The Tories are nothing if not pragmatic. Once the referendum is over, they will all once again circle the wagons and continue at their usual abhorrent “best”.
Don’t forget: they are the longest surviving political party in British history.
Has anyone else noticed that all the Remain ads are in a very Conservative shade of blue, while the Leave ads have a Labour typeface and shade of red? There’s no way it’s a coincidence.
What, you think the Leave camp are trying to set Labour up in a subtle way?
I reckon so – the campaign director is Dominic Cummings, Gove’s old attack dog from the Department for Education. He can’t have picked that shade without good reason.
There’s an interesting use of colour in a Vote Leave meme from 19 May at 13:22 where the Great Blue Britain gives Great Blue Money to nasty red Turkey, who send their nasty red people over. (facebook link https://www.facebook.com/voteleave/photos/a.512228762287386.1073741828.505084413001821/596666150510313/?type=3&theater ) Also the one with Turkey treading their millions of red footprints over a British background.
Or does Cummings think so little of us that he reckons Labour voters will agree with anything in red starting with L?
PS: Given the toxicity of the official campaigns, I think they should both be forced to follow the tobacco packaging route and use Pantone 448C for all their fearmongering materials.
An artist writes: Good question. Emotionally, blue associates generally with head, as in coolheaded; red associates with heart, redblooded. Can’t use green or yellow because they’re used by the Greens and the Libs (rip). Purple has been purloined by the Kippers.
Not a lot left. Black? Brown? Both have a bad past politically. I think I’d go for cyan aka turquoise….
So, could well be a ‘dig’ but choices are limited.
Cameron and his appalling govt all ought to resign,they are ruining this country.
selfserving,lying,cheating,murdering scum,the lot of them.
Just remembering here when Major had a split in his Party, he went for the simple “Do you want me at the top or don’t you?” move within the Party and managed to silence his critics by effectively saying to them: “Put up or push off.”
I think the EU Referendum thing has been a similar move on Camera-on’s part, but that it has backfired spectacularly because the true depth of the division between pro-and anti-EU Tory membership has been revealed in its entirety. The public cannot now unsee it and the repercussions will, I think, be felt in 2020 whether Camera-on stays as their leader or is forced to step down. Those Tories whose votes fall on the losing side will not be quick to forgive their Party for the fwightfully vulgar ruckus that’s been caused. Dirty linen and all thet, doncherknow? Expect to hear much Harrumph!!-ing, and whuffling of Kitcheneresque moustaches in the aftermath…
Just as I feel that Labour needs to start deselecting the red Tories in its midst, and will remain untrustworthy (if not unelectable) until they do, so too will the Tories have to decide what their future stance on Europe will be, and deselect the dissidents within their ranks. Failure to straighten out and fly right, by both Parties, will be to the gain of the likes of UKIP, and we all know where THAT would take us should the gain be too great.
Like it or not, the populists are making large inroads into mainstream politics with their one-trick pony shows because, again like it or not, populism is the level of understanding that most ordinary people have of politics, if indeed they bother take notice at all these days. One only has to look at the recent gains made by the far right in Europe (France, Austria) and America (Trump) to see the proof of that particular pudding, and it’s why we in the UK still have the bread-and-circus display that is PMQ’s. Give the little man a chance to shake his fist at the telly and shout “GRRR!” a couple of times and he’ll feel he’s made a contribution and be more productive at his workplace on Monday morning, because by then he’ll have forgotten all about whatever it was that prompted him to raise his fist in the first place.
Personally I’ll be glad when the whole EU vote thing is over, one way or t’other, and we can then get on with scrutinising the kind of sneakisms that are currently being perpetrated under cover of the furore that it’s creating.
(Please send all due tuppences to The Labour Party.)
Its all part of the on-going civil war within the Nasty Party. I am hoping there will be positive results as a result of the police investigations into Tory electoral fraud and falsifications of their accounts.