Parsons Green tube bomber’s father was killed by coalition military forces in Iraq
Ahmed Hassan blamed the UK for the death of his father.
It seems Ahmed Hassan’s attempt to murder Tube passengers at Parsons Green was a result of the so-called “cycle of international hatred” that This Site has discussed in the past.
During his trial, the court heard that Hassan blamed the UK for the death of his father during an air raid on Baghdad during the second Gulf War.
He was also, reportedly, upset by the ongoing air strikes against his country, sending a text message to one of his lecturers complaining: “Your country continues to bomb my people daily.”
This fits the “cycle of violence and hatred”, as described by This Site, here.
The cycle is illustrated in this chart:
[Image created by Miki Henderson.]
It would be nice to hope that, in this instances, the cycle ends here. Hassan was a “lone actor” and there is no reasonable way to link his behaviour with those of anyone else. But we’re not discussing a situation in which reason plays much part.
In fact, it would be reasonable to believe that people in the UK, hearing the news of Hassan’s guilt, are already blaming his country, his religion and even people who have no relationship to him other than a passing physical resemblance.
It is a cycle of stupidity – that’s how it perpetuates itself.
An Iraqi teenager has been found guilty of attempted murder after planting a homemade bomb on a crowded rush-hour London underground train.
Ahmed Hassan, an asylum seeker, was convicted after a device he built partially detonated at Parsons Green in west London in September last year.
It emerged at the end of the Old Bailey trial that Hassan had been subject to the government’s Prevent deradicalisation programme for more than a year.
Thirty people were injured after a fireball swept through the tube train’s carriage, burning passengers’ skin, hair and clothing.
Source: Parsons Green tube bomber convicted of attempted murder | UK news | The Guardian
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What’s the point of this post, Mike?
It seems to me you’re saying that it’s entirely John Q Englishman’s fault; and said John Q Englishman would be guilty of overt racism for viewing arabs & muslims with suspicion.
Well I’m not. He’s given people (Who otherwise wouldn’t ordinarily have cast a suspicious eye on people of his race previously) an entirely valid reason.
In my own opinion, the little bast**d deserves death for what he did. He’s done his own people no favours at all.
I didn’t kill his father, nor did you. Nor did those on the train. You can hypothesise all you like about the causes; but you have to be seen to condemn the man as well as the atrocity. It’s not to be seen in the article. And also it’s that’s something that imams never used to do; in fairness they’re getting better with their refusal to bury that rat what carried out the manchester arena abomination.
He CHOSE to be part of the cycle you demonstrated.
So did the UK government.
It’s very easy to stir up hatred, especially if it furthers weapons sales, isn’t it?
And let’s have a look at your “valid reason”. You’re saying Hassan didn’t have a valid reason for bombing that train – but that British people who are angry at what he did, yourself included, would be justified in retaliatory action? That would be hypocritical.
Oh, I get it now… Hanging him would be ‘retaliatory action’ , and not meting out justice?
Who’s ‘stirring up hatred’, Mike? There’s a difference between ‘stirring up hatred’ and wanting to see real justice done. And what’s the UK arms sales got to do with me? I’m not selling them to Saudi, nor do I approve.
You should choose your words a bit more carefully. And there’s no ‘perspective’ when it comes to heinous acts like that.
I think you’re the one who should be more careful in choosing words.
Interesting. This information seems either not to have come out at his trial or has been missed. Certainly I have not seen mention of it in the press. It certainly casts alters one’s perceptions of him. On the other hand, he was lashing out at the wrong people.
The information was in the press reports of the verdict – I just gave it a little perspective.
It puts into context the why of his actions,it’s not absolving him. A very damaged traumatised young child, scarred by the atrocities of a war he didn’t understand, hells bells there were enough of us as adults who didn’t really understand it and then subsequently found out how many lies we were fed to accept it.
It does not mean his actions are acceptable, forgivable, aimed at the right people or should go unpunished. What it does mean though is that he too should have help with some compassion and not a continuation of this cycle of hate onto the next person,just because they look or sound similar
‘What it does mean though is that he too should have help with some compassion and not a continuation of this cycle of hate onto the next person,just because they look or sound similar.’
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I see.
So maybe Gandhi, MLK, et al should’ve taken up the AK47, eh? Maybe we’d have ‘understood’ them better…
‘Help’?? ‘Compassion’??
WTF is your major malfunction here? The rat was given a home by the same british nationals he CHOSE to try and MURDER…
It’s EXACTLY the same actions & circumstances of this particular instance that give far-right groups (at least SOME) credence.
Jesus wept.
That’s precisely the opposite of what was being said. No – Gandhi, MLK etc should NOT have taken up weapons; they were right to pursue the course that they took. That’s what’s being said here.
You seem to be trying to confuse the issue because loonytoonz suggested help and compassion, you tried to suggest that the opposite was being advocated and then you said help and compassion would be wrong in this case. Then you said the bomber’s actions give far-right groups credence; it doesn’t.
Firstly, I’m not trying to confuse anything. Read again – and again if need be – until it becomes apparent.
The rat is EXACTLY the ‘poor little asylum-seeker-cum-terrorist’ that the right are using as the rule rather than the exception. And otherwise perfectly reasonable people have now got far less reason NOT to doubt…
I dread to think what’d have happened had the rat succeeded in killing people. The far right have already said: “We told you so”…And it’s churlish to argue with them about it. It’s happened. One single instance doesn’t mitigate in any way, shape, nor form
Oh, and can you remember Gandhi or MLK resorting to or promoting violence? No me neither; and they both garnered a lot more sympathy for their cause(s) than this rat ever could.