Pring has trumped Stephen Timms by highlighting evidence of the DWP's violence. How will the minister respond?

VIDEO: Were DWP officials ‘only obeying orders’ that led to multiple deaths?

Last Updated: August 1, 2025By

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Were DWP officials ‘only obeying orders’ that led to multiple deaths of claimants?

A debate has broken out over the level of engagement with government policy by civil servants at the Department for Work and Pensions.

Sir Stephen Timms, now minister for social security and disability, says he has never seen evidence of a “conspiracy” among DWP staff to take decisions leading to the deaths of hundreds – or thousands – of benefit claimants, or of efforts to hide what happened.

But John Pring of Disability News Service says the deaths of disabled claimants, particularly over the last 15 years, were not the sole responsibility of (Conservative) government ministers but were largely the result of “slow bureaucratic violence” that has developed within this “toxic” government department.

To This Writer, it is reminiscent of the “Nuremberg Defence” used by German soldiers to justify war crimes during World War Two – that they were “only following orders”.

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  2. Jeffrey Davies February 14, 2025 at 7:50 pm - Reply

    all all of them from ids rtu they all had a hand in it nurses doctors also helped them along that final road if any minister or any person said different they bloody lying and their tongues should b split so no more free rotten words b spoke by them

  3. Jeffrey Davies February 15, 2025 at 6:43 am - Reply

    how cannot the servants do whot their master want how can atos crapita and rest not do without the guidance of those who control yet they will deny this

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