10 thoughts on “How the IDS ‘Iron Dome’ defence system shoots down incoming facts

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    1. Mike Sivier

      This is old stuff, Tony – it doesn’t answer the question. Asked for information on deaths in 2012, it provides only information on those who died in 2011-12. We already have information on those who died in parts of 2011 and, because this new information does not cover the same time period, plus the period up to the end of March 2012, we cannot work out how many more deaths there were or whether there was an increase.
      Furthermore, because this covers ALL Incapacity Benefits lumped together, we do not know who was on IB, who on ESA (or which groups they were in), who was on DLA or PIP. In the context of what we knew before, the figures are almost meaningless.

      1. Tony Dean

        I am aware it is a rubbish answer to the question asked. Which was why I posted the link.

  2. Dave Knight

    I think you really need to be careful about using the situation in Gaza as a subject for humour. It’s no joke as people are currently losing their lives and limbs over there. Understood?

    1. Mike Sivier

      Are you aware that thousands of people die, here in the UK, every year because Iain Duncan Smith refuses to accept the result of his policies?

      I don’t think Tom Pride (who created the article to which you are objecting) thought it was a subject for humour either. I expect he was hoping that an attempt to demonstrate the one phenomenon by juxtaposing it with the other – in an intelligent way – would help spread awareness of both, but that kind of hope is always coloured by the fact that the point is going to be lost on some people.

      For clarity: The article demonstrates two horrific situations, neither of which should be taking place – and you only saw fit to mention one of them.

    2. Tony Dean

      It is no joke the 250 people a week are dying between a “fit for work” decision and a tribunal date. The DWP can’t hide that forever, because I am not the only one able to do cross referencing of databases.
      (That is 14/1000 in that time, minus the expected death rate of “normal” working age people of 2.9/1000/annum.)

    3. Miss Funky

      I don’t exactly understand what Dave Knight’s problem is. Does everyone else on here find themselves similarly perplexed? It may have escaped your attention Dave, but Mike has already headed this post ‘satire’ just on the off chance that there are any people out there not intelligent enough to get the point of it. Mike is a well respected political commentator with an open comments policy which attracts people of all sorts of political stripes. Moreover, it’s not actuall his piece!!!

      Why so much aggression in your tone, Mister Dave? Surely you could have made your point (whatever that is) without adding a rather menacing “understood?” onto the end of your post which almost carries the weight of some kind of ‘or else…’ threat. Did you have a bad day, or something? Or are you secretly ‘Gripper Stepson’ who used to attend Grange Hill….?;)

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