Damian Green said people on ESA with ‘severe conditions’ would not have repeat assessments. He lied.

Last Updated: November 5, 2016By
Damian Green in Parliament, very definitely NOT telling anyone he is planning to place people with serious long-term illnesses under relentless scrutiny.

Damian Green in Parliament, very definitely NOT telling anyone he is planning to place people with serious long-term illnesses under relentless scrutiny.

Yes, he lied again.

He said he would end repeat assessments for people on ESA with “the most severe, lifetime conditions” – but his Green Paper proposes measures to make such assessments continual.

The idea is to try to force people off the Support Group of ESA by telling them that going to work will magically make them healthy again – despite the fact that being in the Support Group in the first place suggests the exact opposite – and then threatening them with sanctions if they don’t go through all the stressful and pointless tasks associated with ‘work-related activity’.

Basically, it would turn the Support Group into a larger Work-Related Activity Group with no deadline for coming off-benefit and a much higher mortality rate.

You see, there’s no need for repeat assessments when you can just refer someone with a serious condition to a “work coach”.

The stress of being referred could kill a claimant straight away. If not, then the stress of having to undergo ‘work-related activity’ could do it. Finally, it is always possible that the stress of simply having to keep in touch with these small-minded box-tickers will snuff out the life from any claimants who are left.

If not, then failure to comply with instructions (due to sickness or disability) would allow the DWP to sanction a claimant off-benefit – most probably to die at some point after the Department ceases to monitor their condition.

It’s quite easy to understand the underlying reason for this planned change: The Support Group has been getting very large lately – uncomfortably so for the Conservatives, who have always been convinced that most people on sickness benefits have been faking it.

(That is an attitude that arises from the Tory government of 1979-97, when millions of people were dumped onto sickness benefits by Margaret Thatcher and John Major in order to make their unemployment figures look acceptable to a gullible electorate.)

Unfortunately for the Tories, most people on sickness benefits aren’t faking it.

This Writer reckons the plan – if allowed to happen – will amount to wholesale death. A slaughter of the innocents, if you like.

Here are the relevant paragraphs, quoted from the Benefits and Work website:

“131. Instead, it ought to be possible to build a more effective approach to assessing entitlement to financial and employment support. For instance, establishing entitlement to financial support could still be decided by an assessment, but that assessment could be used solely to determine whether an individual should get additional financial support. Decisions on whether someone should engage with Jobcentre Plus or specialist programmes could then be made through a separate process. This would avoid the current situation where someone’s entitlement to additional financial support can also result in them being given no employment support.

“132. For instance, trained work coaches could have discretion to make case-by-case decisions about the type of employment support a person is able to engage with. To do this effectively, they would work closely with the person, building on information gathered at early discussions such as the Health and Work Conversation to ensure they are signposted to help that is appropriate to their needs. Work coaches will be able to draw on additional advice where needed, from Disability Employment Advisers and Community Partners, and could access specialist advice such as occupational health and Jobcentre Plus work psychologists where individuals have more complex health conditions.

“133. That important relationship with a work coach would then continue beyond the assessment, ensuring those assessed as needing the most financial support can still access the holistic health and employment support and signposting offered by and through Jobcentre Plus. Work coaches could have full discretion to tailor any employment support to each individual claimant. This approach would be truly responsive, allowing the work coach to adjust requirements and goals dependent on changes in a person’s condition or circumstances. This is particularly important for people with fluctuating health conditions, as the support available would always be reflective of their needs.

“134. This would mean that people are really offered a personalised service that takes appropriate account of their needs while still receiving the same financial support as under the current system – rather than having the offer of employment support determined by a fixed category. We would of course put safeguards in place to ensure that work coaches do not require someone to attend an appointment where this would not be reasonable.”

The Department for Work and Pensions is considering forcing all sick and disabled people on out-of-work disability benefits to take part in “mandatory” activity, its new green paper has revealed.

Such a change would mean that all people on out-of-work disability benefits – even those who are terminally-ill or have the very highest support needs – would have to stay in regular touch with their local jobcentre or risk having their benefits sanctioned.

The measure would affect those in the support group of employment and support allowance (ESA) – and the equivalent group in the new universal credit – a group which is currently not expected to carry out any work-related activity at all.

It comes only a month after the new work and pensions secretary, Damian Green, secured widespread praise for announcing an end to repeat assessments for those on ESA with “the most severe, lifetime conditions”.

He said then that the government would “sweep away unnecessary stress and bureaucracy which weigh them down” and that “if someone has a disease which can only get worse, making them turn up for repeated appointments to claim what they need is pointless bureaucratic nonsense”.

Now Green (pictured, announcing some details of the green paper to MPs) appears to have decided that the same group of people should be forced into repeated contact with a “work coach”, or lose some of their benefits.

Asked about this inconsistency, a Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) spokeswoman did not deny the possibility of mandatory activity for all those in the support group.

She said: “We recognise that people in the support group have limited capability for work related activity – but that does not necessarily mean they should be left without any support at all.

“We believe it is important to give claimants the opportunity to take up the offer of personalised and tailored support if it is appropriate for them, regardless of what group they are placed in following the WCA.”

Source: Ministers set to force work-related activity on everyone in ESA support group

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  1. Nick November 5, 2016 at 12:25 am - Reply

    He lied indeed mike. My gut feeling is that group won’t survive long term and when every one has passed on they will close that group down

  2. Lin Wren November 5, 2016 at 4:49 am - Reply

    As I have said & believe it us planned Government Murder by Sanctions

  3. jeffrey davies November 5, 2016 at 6:44 am - Reply

    the final part of their aktion t4 never you say then tell those who have lost partners friends through this benefits denial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww800PzlJ6Y

  4. Rupert Mitchell (@rupert_rrl) November 5, 2016 at 7:58 am - Reply

    Sounds rather like Nazi Germany in the last century to me. Where are the legal people who can and will fight this sort of Tyranny? We must not let go of this because, if we do, we are condoning persecution of vulnerable people.

  5. casalealex November 5, 2016 at 8:04 am - Reply

    I can’t help but wonder if mendacity, dishonesty, deception. hypocrisy, perfidy – call it what you will – is a necessary aptitude required in the CV of those ‘Right Honourables’ designated for the position of a cabinet minister?

  6. laurettalottiepearson November 5, 2016 at 12:12 pm - Reply

    I wonder if the disabled can seek asylum in Canada or the EU? They can’t be allowed to continue this killing of the vulnerable! !

    • Susan Russell November 10, 2016 at 1:44 am - Reply

      Let me know I’d like to go!

  7. 61chrissterry November 5, 2016 at 1:05 pm - Reply

    Shared on 61chrissterry

  8. B Whitter. November 5, 2016 at 6:16 pm - Reply

    This would leave me no choice but to end it all.

    • Mike Sivier November 6, 2016 at 12:04 am - Reply

      What, and give them the satisfaction of knowing they had succeeded?
      That’s not the way.

  9. mohandeer November 5, 2016 at 7:55 pm - Reply

    Of course he lied. Conservative policy has shown consistency in lies with Cameron breaking 10 of his 12 pledges he made back in 2010, no change there then.
    The Tories know exactly what they are doing – it’s called Eugenics by Stealth and is about as subtle as a train wreck:
    If I lose my ESA (now that a heart attack is a little less imminent), I will be sanctioned because my various health conditions do not allow me to have a social life any more than I could keep appointments on any given day at any given time, not even hospital appointments. I’ll have a tiny pension but beyond that all I can do is sell my home, live off the proceeds for two years- handsomely, then the state can pay my rent and my dole, which will cost them a lot more, then collect my state pension and the state will have to pay my rent for the rest of my years, because I won’t be living in my paid up home. Prats can’t think beyond the £ signs which rule their life.

  10. Paula November 5, 2016 at 8:01 pm - Reply

    Why is this nation of ours standing for this! Dont most people care?

    • Mike Sivier November 6, 2016 at 12:03 am - Reply

      No. And they won’t unless they are made to care.

  11. Brian November 5, 2016 at 9:50 pm - Reply

    CODE :- offered, personalized, opportunity, appropriate, tailored, activity, reflective, engage, specialist, programmes, effectively, signposted, responsive, discretion, support,

    TRANSLATION :- We demand you do exactly as we say with whom, when & wherever we choose, or you will not be entitled to welfare.

  12. c s November 6, 2016 at 4:01 pm - Reply

    trouble is, not one of them are medical specialist’s or doctors, they are only workers in the government, who do not give a damn about anyone with a disability, because it costs to much, and here’s a thing, most of these people have worked and paid there so called taxe’s, why did camerons child and father have the disability payment, and no doubt many other mps have claimed it or are claiming it now. hypocricy springs to mind. if any one of them woke up to having a massive stroke or other disability, to rely on other people,most who don’t think you deserve to live or dye because you drain the public purse, then just remember most paid in to that purse. and shame on you.

  13. Susan Russell November 10, 2016 at 1:43 am - Reply

    “We believe it is important to give claimants the opportunity to take up the offer”? But if you don’t accept, you will be sanctioned! Not much of an opportunity i say!
    How can we legally stop this process if faced with it?
    Ask to see their magic wands that can remove all genetic faults and associated pains?

  14. Susan Russell November 10, 2016 at 1:56 am - Reply

    Oh and as far as being Right Honourable in today’s life it is a hereditary peerage.
    Certainly nothing honourable about any of them.

    • Mike Sivier November 10, 2016 at 11:37 am - Reply

      No, the word ‘Honourable’ is applied to any MP. ‘Right Honourable’ is applied to members of the Privy Council. It has nothing to do with ennoblement.

  15. mrmarcpc November 11, 2016 at 4:32 pm - Reply

    Of course he lied, he’s a tory, and a politician!

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