
Wannabes: The fakes who are accusing decent people of anti-Semitism are like cartoon witch-hunters. They’d be funny if they weren’t trying so hard to harm decent people.
These obsessives get stranger by the day.
For the record, I am not Jewish, nor am I currently in the Labour Party, therefore I am not allowed to be a member of Jewish Voice for Labour. It only admits as full members people in the Labour Party who are Jewish.
But that didn’t stop troll “David Simon” (@DavidSimonSPG) from making that suggestion as part of a bizarre attempt to smear JVL for taking an interest in Islamophobia in Poland. Apparently this person reckons Jewish people thinking about Poland should only be able to think about the Holocaust:
When 'Jewish' Voice for Labour things of bigotry in Poland it thinks of Islamophobia. Keep that in mind when people doubt that JVL is a real Jewish group.
— David Simon (@DavidSimonSPG) January 30, 2019
I'm sure there's Islamophobia in Poland. As well Homophobia, Russophobia, Germanophobia & others. But if you're actually Jewish and you think specifically of Poland the big thing you think of is anti-Semitism. You have to be Jewish to understand. JVL isnt
— David Simon (@DavidSimonSPG) January 31, 2019
There’s a case for suggesting that this is an anti-Semitic attitude in itself – denying Jewish people the right to self-determination.
But then he went one worse:
Still waiting for the incident of anti-semitic violence in Poland (outside of WWII) having being mentioned by JVL.
Maybe you might ask JVL leader Mike Sivier. He says he isn't sure that 6 million were killed because he wasn't there. But he might know Poland
— David Simon (@DavidSimonSPG) February 2, 2019
We’ll take these in order. Here’s JVL talking about anti-Semitism in Poland:
Ex-ADL Chief Foxman: Appointment of Far-Right Leader as Minister of Digital Affairs a ‘New Low for Poland’ https://t.co/yuYu1PQ7VT "Poland seems to have reached a new low appointing a neo-Nazi antisemite in charge of internet and social media,”
— JewishVoiceForLabour (@JVoiceLabour) January 3, 2019
Fightback against racism in Poland https://t.co/UlDQAQlWSO via @jvoicelabour
— Teresa Rose Steele (@treezsteele) July 3, 2018
This addresses the issue that “David Simon” addressed initially – anti-Semitism in Poland being discussed by JVL. He had modified this to “anti-Semitic violence” but we may discard this.
I’ve already discussed why I can’t be a member of JVL, let alone leader of it. As for that hackneyed lie about me, here’s proof that I never said anything of the sort:
At last: The Sunday Times admits anti-Semitism allegations against Vox Political writer were FALSE https://t.co/C4xL2zbkHs https://t.co/FOaDebxnZs pic.twitter.com/i3IOmh3X65
— Mike Sivier (@MidWalesMike) January 13, 2019
I think it was a clumsy attempt at guilt-by-association, and also at extending a false and disproved claim by repeating it until someone believes it again.
There was an attempt to double-down, with a claim that I must be a member of JVL because I used the word “let’s”. It’s very silly – look:
JVL tweeted abut him, he tweeted a response. How does that make them connected? How does that make him their leader? I've tweeted about loads of people I've never met
— Paddy Roxburgh (@PaddyTofu) February 2, 2019
That’s right; we were discussing someone like “David Simon”, who was likely to be a paid troll or a bot. I had written “Let’s move on” – meaning everybody else in the conversation.
But “David Simon” wanted people to believe it meant I was a member of JVL.
That is the silliness of the fake “anti-Semitism” witch-hunters.
Fortunately this smear didn’t get very far, despite a second, flailing attempt at it:
Hi David, Are you misreprenting him intentionally? He was discussing a leaflet, not written by him, which said thousands not millions, what he was saying is he did not know why the leaflet said that, press misreported him, IPSO upheld complaint.
— Paddy Roxburgh (@PaddyTofu) February 2, 2019
Oh wait – there was another bit, to do with the leaflet that led to the claim that I was a Holocaust denier. Marvel at the silliness here:
Oh, was he the secret author of the leaflet as well as the secret leader of JVL? What other secret stuff is he up too? What others secret conspiracies are JVL up too? It's almost like you're just making things up
— Paddy Roxburgh (@PaddyTofu) February 2, 2019
I'd ask my leader, I presume that's Sivier, he seems to be the leader of everything nowadays. Look, this is fun and all, but your making up conspiracies, further discussion is pointless, I gotta go, Sivier told me to shoot JFK, or was it JVL?
— Paddy Roxburgh (@PaddyTofu) February 2, 2019
Complete misrepresentation. I never had anything to do with the leaflet. I was challenged about it by a commenter on This Site and my comment was pointing out that there wasn’t enough information to make an educated response on the reasons it was written the way it was.
So that’s guilt by association, misrepresentation, anti-Semitism, and an attempt at “the big lie” (repeating a lie until people believe it) – which was, I believe, a Nazi tactic.
What a nasty person – if it is a person. And what a shining example of the people he represents. Next time you see anyone like “David Simon” making unevidenced accusations like these, the advice is clear: Ignore and block.
Vox Political needs your help!
If you want to support this site
(but don’t want to give your money to advertisers)
you can make a one-off donation here:
Here are four ways to be sure you’re among the first to know what’s going on.
1) Register with us by clicking on ‘Subscribe’ (in the left margin). You can then receive notifications of every new article that is posted here.
2) Follow VP on Twitter @VoxPolitical
3) Like the Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/VoxPolitical/
Join the Vox Political Facebook page.
4) You could even make Vox Political your homepage at http://voxpoliticalonline.com
And do share with your family and friends – so they don’t miss out!
If you have appreciated this article, don’t forget to share it using the buttons at the bottom of this page. Politics is about everybody – so let’s try to get everybody involved!
Buy Vox Political books so we can continue
fighting for the facts.
The Livingstone Presumption is now available
in either print or eBook format here:
Health Warning: Government! is now available
in either print or eBook format here:
The first collection, Strong Words and Hard Times,
is still available in either print or eBook format here:
Typo alert ” currenlty “
Thanks – fixed.
Mike
You missed our response to ‘Simon’
This is weird. JVL have regularly commented on Polish antisemitism and questioned why the Israeli Government gives Polish leaders such a warm welcome given their antisemitism and also why the Tory Party has aligned with them in the European parliament. https://twitter.com/DavidSimonSPG/status/1090997283049607168
For some strange reason it doesn’t appear to be there for me. That’s strange, considering this guy seems to think I’m your leader, and all.
It seems that “Simon” isn’t any happier when JVL: talks about Polish antisemitism. He (or the bot) responded to:
Israeli MKs slam Netanyahu for hosting far-right governments jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/israeli-mks-sl… “The summit that Netanyahu is organising in February includes a PM who passed legislation that disgraces the memory of the Holocaust victims and a PM who publishes antisemitic content,”
linked to https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/israeli-mks-slam-netanyahu-for-hosting-far-right-governments-next-month/
with this comment
David Simon @DavidSimonSPG
12m
Replying to @JVoiceLabour
So you’re in favor of Lapid or Gabbay? I don’t think so: en-gb.facebook.com/jvoicelabour/p… You’re just against any Jewish Israeli party leaders-whatever the issue.
In his eyes we cna’t win – except we are and he is very upset by that.
Indeed!