Abbott pilloried for sharing Zoom platform with racists – by hypocrites
Diane Abbott is under attack again (it’s a Sunday; presumably these people have nothing better to do) – for sharing a Zoom call with racists.
I’ll let her explain:
On Saturday I took part in an online meeting entitled “Uniting against racism and the new cold war”I had no idea that there were people on the call who denied Chinese harassment and massacres of Muslims in Uyghur. The treatment of these communities is a human rights violation.
— Diane Abbott MP (@HackneyAbbott) November 15, 2020
Before we get into the meat of this, let’s set one thing straight right away: some ignorants have claimed that she was wrong to refer to Uyghur as a place. They were wrong:
https://twitter.com/SotonFranny/status/1328045953711038464
Perhaps more serious is the allegation that she deliberately shares platforms with apologists for atrocities:
https://twitter.com/ToubeDavid/status/1327910061608407041
Some critics have claimed that she could have looked up the named people with whom she was sharing the call, and should have boycotted it when she found out it included atrocity apologists. However:
Someone made a point that older leftists come from a time before deplatforming as we know it now, and therefore they have less of a problem sharing one with people they disagree with, or agree with on the topic of discussion but disagree profoundly with on others…
— Marl Karx (@BareLeft) November 15, 2020
Which is why war crime fanboy John Rentoul can get his digs in, and the clapping seals in his mentions will never see or care about the hypocrisy and contradictions.
— Marl Karx (@BareLeft) November 15, 2020
The reference to John Rentoul is accurate. See:
I am pretty sure that Diane Abbott is not fervently backing massive state persecution of minorities in China but it’s not like John ever let minor details like that put him off in the past. pic.twitter.com/zeBBLGaJVn
— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) November 15, 2020
The point by “Marl Karx” is a good one, though: de-platforming is a recent phenomenon – and not a very clever one. If you leave an event because you don’t like some of the other people on it, you are giving them more space in which to put forward their views. Isn’t it better to attend, and challenge?
Finally, there is the issue of double-standards:
https://twitter.com/misslucyp/status/1327944914110394368
This claim about Starmer provoked a strong adverse response from people who claimed Starmer stuck around. However:
https://twitter.com/ScaryNewDad/status/1327978132188565509
There’s also this:
The Labour Party just f*cking elected Blair fanboy Iraq War apologist Luke Akehurst to its NEC
If you're attacking Diane Abbott for ShAriNg a Zoom call, but not attacking centrist Labour for its illegal military interventionist past you can f*ck right off tbh
— Mrs Gee #TransformPolitics 💚🇵🇸🍉 (@earthygirl011) November 15, 2020
Inevitably there’s the spectre of Tony Blair. I wish I had Owen Jones’s research resources (or maybe the amount of spare time he seems to have) – although I obviously don’t share his views on what Abbott did. His comments on Blair are interesting and I include only the beginning and the end of them here, so take a look at the whole thread.
Tony Blair is a former Prime Minister – obviously far more influential than Diane Abbott – and is guilty of two things:
1) Direct apologism for Chinese atrocities in Xinjiang province
2) A relationship with China's regime
— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) November 15, 2020
Finally, anyone on the left who is an apologist for the atrocities committed by China's regime against the Uyghurs is a political and moral disgrace.
You should be consistent: fight human rights abuses committed by the West, by the West's allies AND by China.
The end.
— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) November 15, 2020
Finally, there’s the issue of unwitting support of atrocities by people who denounce them:
Half the people screaming at Diane Abbott about Uyghurs probably weren't aware of the Concentration camps China holds them in.
Some are likely wearing products manufactured by imprisoned Uyghurs, and haven't thought about it for a second. Nor do they really care.
Hypocrisy
— Alex Tiffin (@RespectIsVital) November 15, 2020
It’s possible that we are all guilty of this kind of behaviour. We cannot know that the products we buy are produced under duress, in circumstances we should deplore, if we’re not told.
But then, why aren’t we told?
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Perhaps it would be useful if we saw some solid evidence of the mistreatment of Uyghurs to start with, and not the reports of a lone US right wing religious nutter, or pictures that could be of anything anywhere. What is certain is there were/are thousands of Uyghur head choppers in Syria who were not sent there by the Chinese government.
Diane Abbott aside, there were opinionated useful idiots aplenty denouncing her, throwing snide, sarcastic and totally uninformed comments regarding something they obviously know absolutely nothing about.
If people want to be led by the nose and follow the misinformation campaign because they can’t be arsed to find out what is going on China, than they are nothing more than western imperialist stooges.
There are plenty of articles available explaining what is going on with the Uyghur’s and even articles written by Uyghurs themselves IF and only IF people want the truth. It is far easier to jump on the bandwagon of hypocrisy and US/Western imperialist led disinformation rather than rely on informed knowledge and certainly they are too lazy to actually look for real information on the subjects. So many opinionated comments and not one of them has a clue as to what China is doing.
I suggest a read of one of the articles I have found among my library and probably details the issue WITHOUT colourful insults to those who would rather believe the lies promulgated by the western elites and their egregious mouthpieces.
What’s Left and Stephen Gowans: The Chinese Uyghur Dark Legend And Washington’s Campaign To Counter Chinese Economic Rivalry.
https://gowans.blog/
I won’t hold my breath, because I know just how slothful most of the commenters on both the right and faux left are(the self serving Owen Jones being a perfect example of the double standards being applied accusing detractors of what he himself is guilty of).
I notice you have seen fit to ignore my response. This is the second time you have done this Sivier, you will not get the opportunity to do it again. You are a charlatan and I now bitterly regret giving money to your fighting fund. Bye.
I keep telling people that I have to moderate all comments and sometimes I don’t have time to do it for a while after the comments are sent to me.
This guy sent his comment between 4am and 5am on the morning of November 16 – yesterday, at the time of writing (because it’s just after midnight) – and seems to be demanding special treatment.
I wasn’t ignoring anything – I simply had not seen it yet.
As a man in the African Diaspora, I can say, with confidence and with certainty, that I share platforms with racists every single day. Must I apologise? Question. how can I hope to combat racism, or challenge the opinions of racists unless I engage with them? It seems to me that these persons who love to make meat of happenings such as this, have no interest in solving problems, or breaking down barriers; their aim, it seems, is to exploit existing discord and division conflict.
Very well put.