Gary Lineker is on the right side of history again

Last Updated: November 6, 2023By Tags: , , , , ,

Gary Lineker: is he bothered by Suella Braverman? Not a bit of it.

TV’s best-paid pundit Gary Lineker is right again – and, again, it’s not sport he’s been discussing.

Last time, Mr Lineker came under fire for saying Suella Braverman’s “immeasurably cruel” immigration policy was “directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 1930s”.

He was right then, and now he’s taken aim at Braverman again. She reckons people calling for peace between Israel and Gaza are trying to hold a “hate march” in London, saying there’s a risk of “serious public disorder”, “violence”, “damage” and “offence”.

That’s highly contradictory; why would people who want peace cause such behaviour?

Is she perhaps worried that those who support her own point of view will get involved and they will cause the harm? If so, she should at least do it honestly.

Mr Lineker also picked her up on her language:

Amazingly, this seems to have triggered historian Simon Schama, who – shockingly – chose to challenge Mr Lineker with a false argument:

Again, Mr Lineker is right. You don’t get peace with anybody if you insult them and murder their friends; that will just provoke them, and encourage everybody who knows them to join their cause (as we’ve seen happen many times in the past). Instead, you ask for a halt to hostilities so you can get everybody around the negotiating table.

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And the desire for that to happen doesn’t make an event calling for it into an act of hate!

Still, the Israel apologists are now several layers deep, so we see this:

https://twitter.com/JakeWSimons/status/1720554760007274718

Yes, indeed. A footballer lectured one of Britain’s foremost Jewish historians – and shamed him.

Still, that didn’t stop another useful idiot, Douglas Murray, from insulting Mr Lineker with a non-sequitur about his knowledge of Hamas – or lack of it. The point is easy to disprove: you don’t need knowledge of Hamas to discuss the behaviour of peace marchers, that has been on display for weeks, by now.

And then there is Dr Philip Proudfoot’s analysis, which blows Murray’s premise to dust:

So the (real) haters tried a different tack, going back to the old tactic of demanding that nobody’s opinion can be allowed to count unless they’ve already condemned the Hamas “atrocities” of October 7. Whether any atrocities took place at all is now debatable, but thank goodness, we have Dave Lawrence, below:

It is a really good question. “Never Again” means “Never Again” – for anybody.

It is an affront to history for the ethnic group most commonly identified as a victim of genocide to be committing it against another.

But then, what is a “hate march” anyway?

As far as Metropolitan Police Commissioner Mark Rowley is concerned, it’s an academic argument as Suella Braverman made up the phrase:

So, once again, Gary Lineker is right. I could define “hate march” right now as the condition of despising the third month of the year – with as much validity as anything the crazed Braverman might suggest.


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3 Comments

  1. nivekd November 6, 2023 at 8:19 pm - Reply

    Whatever the Netanyahu Irgun do to Hamas this year – perhaps obliterate every serving member and destroy every single weapon – I think there’s a strong possibility that the families and friends of 10,000 dead people will not forget. What will that do for Israel’s peace and security?
    And has anyone suggested that the British government might have decided fifty years ago that the way to defeat the Provos or UVF or UDA was to bomb Belfast and Derry/Londonderry and the Royal Victoria Hospital?
    BTW 3,500 people died during ‘The Troubles’.

  2. Elijah Traven November 6, 2023 at 9:29 pm - Reply

    So they’ve got to make sure Hamas can never commit another atrocity by killing every Palestinian in Gaza. But this would leave three million Palestinians in the West Bank who might well be upset by this extermination plan and as Palestinians anyway are no doubt harbouring the same lust to commit atrocities against Israelis so would have to be wiped out too. But then there are nations of Arabs in the vicinity all with the same blood lust so tens of millions of them must be high on Israel’s murderous bucket list as well. Does Israel want to live a scorched desert of its own making? And will its insecurity ever be satisfactorily dealt with? After all there are Muslim nations beyond the Middle East, and social democrats all over Europe who are all anti Semites. The argument is false and is only backed by Western regimes who have a long history themselves of wholesale, mass murder. Israel is part of that wider European tradition of might is right, their unassailable right to dominate all those deemed to be less than human. Hamas is a product of Israeli failure to negotiate a solution with the Palestinian people. Israel has no interest in peace and neither do its Western backers. So this is not an Israeli problem as such, it is a Western problem.

  3. Stu November 6, 2023 at 11:36 pm - Reply

    “Lest We Forget” – I do believe that Braverman HAS forgotten what Armistice and Rememberance is all about.
    Her Blinkered, Spiteful, Hateful Far-Right tiny little mind judges others by her own standards.
    (Think of Dorris, Hopkins etc…)
    Criticism is always a great way to reveal the mind of the Critic.

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