The Government has been removing names from the petition calling for a no confidence vote in David Cameron
It’s not as bad as it seems – there are still nearly twice as many names on the petition as are needed to secure a discussion on whether there should be a debate on the subject in Parliament.
But there remains the fact that the Conservative Government has been removing names from a Parliament e-petition on the grounds that they are “fraudulent”.
We don’t know which names have been removed, or on what criteria. All we know is that civil servants say 6,208 signatures matching these criteria have been removed.
This is setting a dangerous precedent – especially on a petition that should have received a response from the government after it achieved 10,000 signatures – three months ago. So far, there has been nothing but silence.
What does this tell you?
Civil servants have been removing signatures from a petition calling for MPs to debate a no confidence vote in David Cameron.
More than 6,000 “fraudulent” names were removed from the e-petition, which accuses Mr Cameron of causing “devastation for the poorest in society for the last 5 years”.
But despite the Government removing the 6,208 signatures, the petition has won the backing of more than 188,000 people.
MPs on the Petitions Committee will decide whether MPs should debate the motion.
Can they legally remove names from a Petition. My we are now just like a 3rd world dictatorship. Orwell just whispered in my ear ‘Told ya so !’
l was able to sign again, using the same details as l had used last time.. l can see no reason why l was removed..
That’s probably only the ‘tip of the iceberg’ as to what’s actually been removed / prevented / manipulated…
“How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations”
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
And of course, Google executives’ close association to No 10 has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any manipulation of search engines…
Just received email as below:-
The Petitions Committee decided not to debate the petition you signed – “Vote no confidence in David Cameron”
The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.
Heil hitler
Is there no morality within the Government anymore?
Got a message this morning.
“The Petitions Committee decided not to debate the petition you signed – “Vote no confidence in David Cameron”
The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.
It is usually more effective to start a petition calling for a specific change to government policy or the law, rather than a petition about an individual Minister.
It is still open to MPs to seek time for a debate on this petition in the main House of Commons Chamber, if they wish to do so. However, debates on motions of no confidence are fairly rare”
So we need to start a petition on giving the petitions committee the power to schedule debates of no confidence then….
Funny that they debated a petition of no confident in Jeremy Hunt a few weeks ago, isn’t it.
Fraudulent misrepresentation of themselves as being democratic, I reckon. Why don’t we try again with demanding that Hameron and co be tried for crimes against humanity and gerrymandering, and censured by parliament for lying to the electorate and the house?
It’s not going to happen anyway. I just received this email;
Dear************* DWP victim,
The Petitions Committee decided not to debate the petition you signed – “Vote no confidence in David Cameron”
The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.
It is usually more effective to start a petition calling for a specific change to government policy or the law, rather than a petition about an individual Minister.
It is still open to MPs to seek time for a debate on this petition in the main House of Commons Chamber, if they wish to do so. However, debates on motions of no confidence are fairly rare.
The petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104471
Find out more about the Petitions Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
I dream of reading that cameron has been found dead with his todger shoved in the decapitated head of ian Duncan smith.
If anyone knows how to find an assassin get us a price and let’s see if we can crowd source it. Shouldn’t take long.
This Blog does not condone violence of any kind – even to Conservatives.
They refused to debate the petition on the grounds that it isn’t something they would normally do.
This has now been dismissed as the petition didnt ask for a specific action and the commons has no power to schedule debates on no confidence…..load of b*****cks
Afraid not, just got an email saying they aren’t going to bother debating this no matter how many signatures they receive.
Mike, I had a response to my email to my local MP to say that won’t be debating on the petition “vote of no confidence ” because they will only talk about actual policies and they very rarely have a debate on individuals which I presume covers everybody in the government . Hence there and was not a vote to remove Jeremy *unt for that reason as well .
This is the email response after voted no
The Petitions Committee decided not to debate the petition you signed – “Vote no confidence in David Cameron”
The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.
It is usually more effective to start a petition calling for a specific change to government policy or the law, rather than a petition about an individual Minister.
It is still open to MPs to seek time for a debate on this petition in the main House of Commons Chamber, if they wish to do so. However, debates on motions of no confidence are fairly rare.
They’ve sent an update to say they wont be discussing it ?
Just received an Email from Petitions UK Government.
It reads..
The Petitions Committee decided not to debate the petition you signed – “Vote no confidence in David Cameron”
The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.
It is usually more effective to start a petition calling for a specific change to government policy or the law, rather than a petition about an individual Minister.
It is still open to MPs to seek time for a debate on this petition in the main House of Commons Chamber, if they wish to do so. However, debates on motions of no confidence are fairly rare.
I signed this said petition and received an email today:
The Petitions Committee decided not to debate the petition you signed – “Vote no confidence in David Cameron”
The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.
It is usually more effective to start a petition calling for a specific change to government policy or the law, rather than a petition about an individual Minister.
It is still open to MPs to seek time for a debate on this petition in the main House of Commons Chamber, if they wish to do so. However, debates on motions of no confidence are fairly rare.
The petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104471
Find out more about the Petitions Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament
Rather concerning we have valuable civil servants vetting petition voting records. Hopefully this process is repeated on all petitions not just those that have political consequences for the Government. If a name is removed then an email notification should be sent back to the individual that they have been removed and the reason for their disqualification.
Is it possible to check that our names are still on said petition,?(or any petition) if we can prove that not all the names were fake that could provide some nice ammo against them
I do not know – but we could write to the Petitions committee (individually) and ask.
I have just had an email to say the petitions committee has decided not discuss
If they were intent on refusing to debate the motion, which I’ve just learnt, why bother tampering with the petition names?
Exactly!
I had my reply to this petition this morning.
I quote.
‘The Petitions Committee decided not to debate the petition you signed – “Vote no confidence in David Cameron”
The House of Commons Petitions Committee has decided not to schedule a debate on this petition, because the Committee does not have the power to schedule debates on motions of no confidence, and the petition does not contain a specific request for action on policy.
It is usually more effective to start a petition calling for a specific change to government policy or the law, rather than a petition about an individual Minister.
It is still open to MPs to seek time for a debate on this petition in the main House of Commons Chamber, if they wish to do so. However, debates on motions of no confidence are fairly rare. ‘
I’ve had the same reply.
See my article about it.
Totally unjustified how the Petitions Committee removed signatures, that is called tampering with signatures and is completely undemocratic. This does not bode well for the process of voting on “official” Government petitions when they so openly tamper with the numbers…
Its time to contact the European Commission , Some will remember that The Tories were taken through the European Courts many times when Thatcher was Prime Minister
Following numerous complaints from individuals , We dont hear so much about this in recent years but many government decisions were reversed one I remember was with regards to housing benefit , Whats new?? same old bashing of the poorest members of society
Doesn’t surprise me, they’re getting away with everything else, why not this!