Tories ‘dead cat’ claim about Corbyn hides huge PMQs defeat for May – over Brexit
What a hypocritical shambles the Conservative Party has become – desperately roping their friends in the mainstream news media into a lie about Jeremy Corbyn to prevent them from reporting the way he humiliated Theresa May at Prime Minister’s Questions over her crap Brexit “deal”.
Once again, Mr Corbyn wiped the floor with the woman who still masquerades as a competent prime minister. He rightly pointed out that the Prime Minister has plunged this country into a national crisis. She refused Parliament the right to vote on her Brexit deal. She said that she did that to seek “further assurances”; she failed. She is now claiming that she is still seeking further assurances while all the time running down the clock on the alternatives, so he asked the Prime Minister to explain when the European Council will meet to approve the changes that it has already ruled out.
She could not.
So Mr Corbyn pointed out that MPs should have had the vote a week ago. There are no meetings of the EU Council scheduled until 21 March, and the EU has been very clear: there are no more negotiations, clarifications or meetings. The Prime Minister will be bringing back the same deal she pulled last week; this is an intolerable situation, and she is simply playing for time. She had said she was seeking further political and legal assurances in relation to the Northern Irish “backstop” and must clearly set out how she will achieve those legally binding assurances before the House is due to return on 7 January.
She would not. She said she would indeed have further discussions with her EU counterparts but provided no verifiable specifics – so we must infer that this was wishful thinking.
So Mr Corbyn pointed out what most of us must know – that Mrs May has been stalling for time. Peter Stefanovic takes up the story in the following video clip:
Ignore tonights mainstream media Tory propaganda, this is the real story from today’s PMQs they are trying to distract you from! pic.twitter.com/tNqYnyAci7
— Peter Stefanovic (@PeterStefanovi2) December 19, 2018
It isn’t on the mainstream media because the poor little snowflakes who run those newspapers and TV channels can’t cope with anything more substantial than gossip and tittle-tattle, as this story demonstrates. You want intelligent discussion? Come to the left-wing social media – but of course you already have, and I am preaching to the converted.
Mr Corbyn continued:
The Prime Minister is recklessly running down the clock, in a shameful attempt to make her bad deal look like the lesser of two evils. pic.twitter.com/BTPFiTiQim
— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 19, 2018
And how did Mrs May respond?
She engaged her own backbenchers in a mocking pantomime call-and-response routine that had most of us cringing with embarrassment
She said: “I know it is the Christmas season and the pantomime season, but what do we see from the Labour Front Bench and the Leader of the Opposition? He is going to put a confidence vote. Oh yes he is!” To this, her MPs replied, “Oh no he isn’t!”
She had clearly lost the argument – and lost it badly.
At this point, Mr Corbyn muttered some words under his breath. Conservative MPs spotted it and accused him of misogynistic language, claiming he had called Mrs May a “stupid woman”. Let’s examine that:
https://twitter.com/Corbynator2/status/1075435351039242242
It certainly looks more like “stupid people” to me, although I admit I’m not an expert lip-reader. Let’s have another look:
https://twitter.com/evolvepolitics/status/1075385049636397056
That’s good enough for some:
It seems Mr Corbyn said “stupid people” in response to the behaviour of multiple Tory MPs in the House today. I thoroughly endorse his comment. They are stupid, inept, out of touch, and a danger to anyone with less than them.
— Rachael Swindon (@Rachael_Swindon) December 19, 2018
Indeed, Mr Corbyn returned to the Commons later in the day to confirm that this was what he had said (although I doubt he had read Rachael’s tweet, above):
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1075417513452806145
That was enough for some, who (correctly) called the outcry a distraction tactic intended to draw attention away from the national crisis Mrs May has caused:
.@jeremycorbyn has told the house he said: “Stupid people” about the members opposite. The matter is now closed and the Tories need to move on, sit down and stop distracting the House and the country from the real issue at stake: the current Tory induced Brexit chaos
— Clive Lewis MP (@labourlewis) December 19, 2018
And who can deny that Mr Corbyn was right to refer to the braying Tories who participated in Mrs May’s pantomime call-and-response nonsense as “stupid people”?
Let's get one thing straight:
When the public sees Theresa May invoking a pantomime chorus, and of Tory MPs braying along with her – at a time when the they have plunged the country into chaos – they will think that Jeremy Corbyn was totally justified in calling them "stupid".
— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) December 19, 2018
https://twitter.com/KeithCameron5/status/1075550408775532544
Consider this, also:
If you're more upset about someone maybe calling Theresa May "stupid woman" than you are about Theresa May deliberately targeting millions of women with sexist austerity dogma & letting an alleged rapist back into her party without a proper investigation it's selective outrage.
— Another Angry Voice (@Angry_Voice) December 19, 2018
It’s true: Austerity has hit women far harder than men, and Mrs May restored the Tory whip to an alleged rapist last week – along with an actual sex pest.
And it was an act of extreme hypocrisy for the Tories expressing outrage at Mr Corbyn’s alleged words to defend Mrs May:
James Cleverly,
YOU personally have called Jeremy Corbyn "antisemitic", “a Czech Spy”, “a traitor", “a Russian apologist” & "a terrorist sympathiser".
YOU talk of kinder politics while daily vomiting #hypocricy
The people of Braintree deserve better than you. https://t.co/XNTKg95fi3— John Clarke (@JohnClarke1960) December 19, 2018
What about this point?
Tory MPs now professing outrage on Theresa May’s part have been briefing newspapers with vile violent imagery about her, that she should “bring her own noose” to a meeting and: “The moment is coming when the knife gets heated, stuck in her front and twisted. She’ll be dead soon.”
— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) December 19, 2018
But media types were already joining in the attack on Mr Corbyn – and getting ridiculed for it. Joe Pike is a political correspondent for ITV:
Just watched this slowed down frame-by-frame.
He clearly doesn’t you clown. https://t.co/DWTb5slq9C
— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) December 19, 2018
If you are uncertain about what Mr Corbyn said, consider the following, from a Twitter user called “Alison”, who is deaf – and the response she received:
I did not even start the difference in the vowel shapes between the two. One is a whistling shape, one is what is called a dropped jaw. There is no whistling shaped vowel there. Not #stupidwoman 5/6
— Alison (@Deaf) December 19, 2018
Come on now. It’s clear he said woman. Stop with the lies
— Adam (@asparrow88) December 19, 2018
I love the reaction from Tom Clark, author of Another Angry Voice:
Once we've seen a man (with no sense of irony) furiously berating a deaf woman as a "liar" because she lip-read Corbyn saying "#StupidPeople" we know Britain's completely screwed.
Theresa May is playing brinkmanship with the entire nation & we're abusing deaf folk on Twitter!
— Another Angry Voice (@Angry_Voice) December 19, 2018
This one’s pretty good, too:
He said: How mad is it that these Tesco value lip readers can't differentiate between a voiceless bilabial plosive and a voiced labial-velar approximant?? Xx
Anyway, it's weird that we have to talk phonetics to you faux feminists who restored the whip to two sexual harassers lw. https://t.co/tYGSfJ2hvq
— Aleesha 🇵🇸 (@a_leesha1) December 19, 2018
By now, the mainstream media were taking a hammering for their position:
Theresa May cynically reinstates Tory MP currently under police investigation for raping a woman:
Mainstream media reaction: "Meh"
Jeremy Corbyn mutters ambiguous phrase after Tory MPs invoke a pantomime chorus in Parliament:
Mainstream media's reaction: "MISOGYNIST!!!"
— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) December 19, 2018
Tories: Let's waste an afternoon debating a comment that wasn't even made, rather than debating our own party's chaotic handling of Brexit.
Mainstream media in unison: Yes, let's all focus on that.
— Another Angry Voice (@Angry_Voice) December 19, 2018
Let’s highlight two examples in particular:
A newspaper whose sexism and misogyny is only rivalled by its bitter racism and general bigotry and hatred pretends to take a moral stand. Actually nauseating. https://t.co/dlc5ocSbU5
— Owen Jones (@OwenJones84) December 19, 2018
You edited the Sun when Katie Hopkins called migrants cockroaches.
Is this a pisstake Stig? https://t.co/q8vsKw7q9l
— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) December 19, 2018
Of course the elephant in this particular room is the hypocrisy of the Conservative MPs and their aides in the media. Francesca Martinez approaches the point subtly:
Dear UK Media,
Instead of fixating on whether Corbyn (the politician least likely to do personal abuse despite being attacked daily) said a word or not, you may want to turn your outrage at the disgusting abuse that Diane Abbott (also a woman) receives every day.#StupidPeople— Francesca Martinez (@chessmartinez) December 19, 2018
Laura Smith MP was less circumspect:
https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1075446054500360193
And if you need a tangible example of the Tory hypocrisy on-screen, right now, consider Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond, who called one of his fellow Conservative MPs a “stupid woman”. Why should he be allowed to get away with it when Mr Corbyn is accused of misogyny and abusive behaviour?
Ohhh looky here, it’s the @uk_chancellor calling @andreajenkyns “a stupid woman”. In the very same PMQ’s. One of his own female MPs. Surely the PCP will be just as outraged at this and demand an apology for his misogynistic behaviour pic.twitter.com/9lppDkrAMI
— UnityNewsUK 🕊 Palestine Affiliated Media (@UnityNewsIndie) December 19, 2018
Unity News is mistaken about the date – the incident happened back in July. Here’s a link to a news story about it:
Strange that Tory MPs didn't get so worked up about it when their own Chancellor called a female MP a #StupidWomanhttps://t.co/RxcX6xeiLq
— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) December 19, 2018
What can we possibly conclude?
That Mr Corbyn did not use abusive or misogynistic language, and that his words accurately described the behaviour of the members opposite him at the time he spoke them.
That Conservative MPs who accused Mr Corbyn are hypocrites, for the reasons mentioned above, and that their hypocrisy arises from an attempt to distract the public from the substantive issue – Mrs May’s failure to negotiate an acceptable Brexit deal, and the national crisis that she has caused.
That the members of the mainstream media who supported this nonsense should be seen as clowns instead of impartial news reporters. You don’t need to give them any more of your attention.
And that Mrs May needs to answer Mr Corbyn’s questions in a much more tangible way – preferably before MPs disband for Christmas.
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try this, when you dealing with stupid people, join the tory, they need more of this class, if this is the trash that comes out of top colleges, no wonder the countries knackered
Whatever he said, does it matter? People are too easily offended nowadays. Churchill, Wilson, even Thatcher would have come back with a witty reply to any similar comment and it wouldn’t have even made the news.
The comment, whatever it was was made sotto voce so it’s only us amateur lip readers who are commenting. But I’m confused is it calling May stupid or calling her a woman they are objecting to?
thank you – we didn’t actually need Jeremy to tell us the woman is stupid – we knew that already…
People on Twitter are supportive. Whatever Jeeemy may or may not have said, they agree that May is both a woman and that she’s stupid! Certainly her behaviour and that of her MPs was more than stupid at yesterday’s PMQs. The noise they made was awful; worse than feeding time at a zoo! A National embarrassment
Without doubt, to describe Theresa May as “stupid” is a massive understatement. I would say that May is thoroughly dishonest, corrupt, nasty and unbelievably stupid.
I would certainly agree with that. But of course, Mr Corbyn did not describe her as stupid.
I dont’t quite understand the problem. Is Theresa May a woman ? Yes. Is Theresa May stupid ? A more difficult question but looking at her track record as PM for 2+ years I would conclude that yes she is. What is wrong with calling a stupid woman “stupid woman”? I wonder if calling David Cameron a “stupid man” , which he obviously is for calling the referendum and starting this Brexit catastrophe in the first place, would have resulted in similar outrage. I think not. It’s therefore sexist not to call May a stupid woman.
I think the point is that Mr Corbyn didn’t call Mrs May a stupid woman at all. He didn’t call her anything. He was referring to the Tory backbenchers who were supporting her in a pantomime call-and-response as stupid people.