After Keir Starmer’s speech, people turn to the Green Party
Keir Starmer gave his big New Year speech, and it landed like a lump of lead.
As This Site reported on January 2, Starmer was appealing for disillusioned stay-at-home voters to turn out for the next general election, warning that apathy could keep the Tories in power.
This Writer knew it was going to be bad when I saw this post on ‘X’:
As it’s yet another Starmer relaunch day, I suggest a drinking game
Normal gulp
Tories are bad
Flat joke
“I’m very clear”Big gulp
Was CPS Director
Dad was a tool maker
Mum worked in NHS
He’s not CorbynDrink a magnum of champagne
A serious plan to reinvest and improve lives pic.twitter.com/dJyedOyhur— Devutopia (@D_Raval) January 4, 2024
Nobody with any influence was going to take it seriously, then – and how could they, when the Labour leader who has been lying to the nation since before he was elected to that post in 2020 bemoaned the fact that people don’t trust politicians any more?
You can see the brass neck on this pathological liar from space. https://t.co/C1GytupwBm pic.twitter.com/R88DL96d0x
— The Agitator (@Agitate4Change) January 4, 2024
There was a bit of guff about offering “fundamental change”, but how fundamental was it, really?
Starmer offers fundamental change:
to replace 14 years of national decline with a decade of national renewal.But do Labour, like Tories, intend to
increase NHS privatisation,
keep FPTP,
increase growth while staying out of the Single Market (!)🙄, and
continue with Freeports?— James Woodfield (@JamesWoodfield) January 4, 2024
If all he has to offer are warmed-over Tory policies, then he has nothing to offer at all – and even the media representatives at the event picked up on this:
Even Sky News puts to Keir Starmer that he's "aping the Tories."
"You're not a leader of change. You're timid."
Beth Rigby is right. Voting for the same is not change we need.@TheGreenParty, for 1st time ever, planning to stand a candidate in every seat in England & Wales.
— Zack Polanski (@ZackPolanski) January 4, 2024
We’ll come back to the Green Party momentarily, but let’s examine a couple more elements that put the seal on Starmer’s shame. First, his failure to act properly with regard to Peter Mandelson’s relationship with paedophiliacs’ pimp Jeffrey Epstein:
Keir Starmer asked about reports that his close political ally Peter Mandelson stayed at Jeffrey Epstein's New York townhouse, replies that "I don't know any more than you do. And therefore, there's not really much I can add to what you already know, I'm afraid" pic.twitter.com/sToGvzBMos
— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) January 4, 2024
Keir Starmer is asked if Peter Mandelson has questions to answer over staying at Epsteins house in Manhattan while the financier was in prison for soliciting prostitution from a minor.
Starmer says he doesn't know. pic.twitter.com/DQNHe0TvgQ
— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) January 4, 2024
Starmer doesn’t know anymore than the journalist asking the question about Mandelson and Epstein, he says.
Hands up if you think he should damn well be finding out .
— Helen 💚 (@Harryb22) January 4, 2024
As soon as Mandelson’s alleged connection with Epstein became known to him – which may have been before it was public knowledge – Starmer should have acted to find out the facts, and done whatever was necessary to safeguard the reputation of Labour. He didn’t.
It is now years since we discovered the Tory whips had a file covering the illegal activities – many of them sexual – of a large number of that party’s MPs. Is it realistic to believe that Labour does not have a similar dossier? And if Labour doesn’t, isn’t this a failure on Starmer’s part? He should be ensuring that nobody represents his party who isn’t as pure as the driven snow.
Secondly – and not mentioned at the event – is the inherent hypocrisy of Starmer’s message, appealing for voters who may have turned away from Labour to come back and support him. It suggests a selective amnesia – forgetting that he is the Labour leader who pushed so many of them away:
And we have decided to find somewhere else to vote. They thought there would be no other options! 🤡s!
— Jay💚💙💚 (@Jay31110641) January 4, 2024
Yes, people have found another party to support. Which party?
I decided a while ago that I was switching my vote to the Greens.
Labour are a disgrace, every bit as bad as the Tories now.
— Rob Filth (@RobFilthUK) January 4, 2024
That’s right – the Green Party is the preference for disillusioned former Labour members and supporters – and deputy leader Zack Polanski was quick to capitalise on that:
Keir Starmer is trying to convince people who have voted Labour in the past to do it again.
He wants you to think there's no hope and you have no other choice.
He's wrong. It takes a minute to join @TheGreenParty:https://t.co/bJLnf4aiOn pic.twitter.com/IJPkT1K8Ze
— Zack Polanski (@ZackPolanski) January 4, 2024
I have seen – and responded to – some arguments that the Greens don’t have enough support, from silly, silly people:
So you won't vote Green until everybody else does? That makes you a bit of a sheep, doesn't it? Following the flock? Why not be a leader instead?
— Mike Sivier (@MidWalesMike) January 4, 2024
The argument supports the status quo that merely passes power between two sets of politicians that are equally corrupt, allowing them to divide the prosperity provided by the world’s sixth largest economy between them while leaving nothing for the rest of us.
And it puts far too much influence in the hands of the polling companies, who are mostly run by people who support right-wing politics. What makes you think they will ever admit what the majority of people in the UK really want?
Starmer reckons it doesn’t matter what he says or how he is criticised, because voters don’t have an alternative – and supporters like “Jank”, above, seem keen to prove him right.
How about we all spend this year proving both of them wrong?
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McSweeney’s Starmer and Reeves won’t be any difference to the IEA’s Sunak and Hunt. They might slow Britain’s decline a little, but McSweeny Starmer and Reeves will bring the end of the Labour party. At a time Britain really needs a Labour party
The one thing that it is impossible to deny, his father was definitely a toolmaker!
The problem with the Green Party is that for decades its national leadership has been focused entirely on the same white middle class floating voters as the other parties. They have the same gulf between the members and the leadership as the Labour Party has, but without the history of working for the working class and non-white vote. The Labour Party may have betrayed those voters over recent years, but so far the Greens have barely seemed even vaguely interested in them. That may change but it needs to change damn fast if the Greens are to take even a handful of seats.
Will not b voting for the cuckoo in the nest but would vote for my local MP who stammer took the whip away from
I left the Labour party for good nearly 2 years ago and joined the Green party, whether they wii make any difference remains to be seen.
Problem: the ‘Greens’ (as a political party – there are a number of individual exceptions, but they’re getting suspended or kicked out) are both seriously ‘woke’ AND they’re full on for war with Russia. So no to the ‘Greens’; they’re just as crap as the Tories and ‘Labour’. And please don’t mention the LimpDems… As Fraser said so often and so memorably in ‘Dads Army’, “We’re DOOMED!” (with a Scottish accent)
What’s wrong with being “woke”? It just means a person is politically aware and knows what’s actually going on around them.
The Greens are NOT “full on for war with Russia” – as far as I can tell. Please explain where you found any such information so the rest of us can check it out.
I do tend to agree with you about the Liberal Democrats, though. Who would trust them after the Coalition government of 2010-15?
‘What’s wrong with being “woke”? It just means a person is politically aware and knows what’s actually going on around them.’
Come off it, Mike! You must know as well as I do that the term “woke” means adhering rigidly and unthinkingly to the current trending mindset among the easily brainwashed who THINK they’re leftish.
That would be the right-wing interpretation of the term that has been laid over it.
The dictionary definition (data from Oxford Languages) is: “alert to injustice and discrimination in society, especially racism”.
Jank’s argument is the vintage self-fulfilling prophecy.
In reply to @0xJANK’s tweet “Theories are great until they’re put into practice”: That’s what is commonly known as a cop out. Not that I trust today’s warmongering ‘woke’ alleged ‘Greens’ any more than the Tories, ‘Labour’ (always in quotes these days) or the LimpDems… EVERYONE should deliberately spoil their ballot >>> ‘winner’ has NO SUPPORT. And I see that the aforementioned warmongering ‘woke’ alleged ‘Greens’ are suspending or kicking out anyone who doesn’t stick rigidly to the current party line on wokeness. Not a good look.
Citation needed. Where’s the evidence of what the Greens are doing?