Skilful work is needed to cut the slaughter-supporting rebels out of Labour

The Labour MPs who rebelled against Jeremy Corbyn over Yemen are desperate to provoke him into expelling them - so they can retain their seats in the House of Commons. What if he made it impossible for their constituency parties to continue supporting them?

The Labour MPs who rebelled against Jeremy Corbyn over Yemen are desperate to provoke him into expelling them – so they can retain their seats in the House of Commons. What if he made it impossible for their constituency parties to continue supporting them?

It is nauseating to hear that Labour MPs – who rebelled against a three-line whip in order to support the killing of innocents in Yemen – did it for no better reason than to undermine their leader.

But it seems right-wing Labour has failed to think its actions through (yet again) and should suffer the consequences of its actions.

In refusing to support the motion against supplying arms to Saudi Arabia, these MPs defied a three-line whip. Normally, this should trigger a certain course of action – withdrawal of the party whip from the MPs concerned, who must sit as independents until the whip is restored.

This would suit the rebels, because they could use any such action against them to justify splitting away from the Labour Party – and claim that Mr Corbyn was responsible.

But nobody can support a decision to continue allowing innocent people to be killed – especially members of the Constituency Labour Parties, on whom these MPs rely to campaign for them in the run-up to elections.

The rebelling MPs cannot say they are following Jeremy Corbyn’s example, defying the party whip on a matter of principle, because his rebellions were always against wars and harm to ordinary people – and never in support of the Conservative Party.

So This Writer tends to agree with the Skwawkbox blog. Mr Corbyn should select a few of the more prominent rebels – those who have repeatedly tried to undermine him – and make an example of them.

If he publicly explains that they are losing the whip because they have shown de facto support for the Conservative Party, and for the killing of innocents, then it will be impossible for them to argue that they were making any kind of principled stand.

The line could be that, if they don’t want to support Labour values, perhaps they should resign their seats and stand for another party, or as independents.

How well do you think they would manage on their own?

Almost 100 Labour MPs (not 100 or 102 as you may have read, since a handful of those who didn’t vote were absent because of serious illness or family situations, including Corbyn loyalists on the front bench) rebelled against their party to vote against a Labour parliamentary motion put forward by Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry for the withdrawal of support for the Saudi-led coalition that has been targeting schools, hospitals and rescue services in Yemen, costing thousands of civilian lives.

The vote was lost by fewer than 100 votes.

Those Labour MPs have made themselves responsible for further deaths of innocents – according to the papers, simply in order to undermine Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. But it goes further than that.

I believe that these Labour MPs are attempting to provoke Corbyn into taking action against them so they can use it as justification for splitting from the party.

Here’s what parliament.uk says about the consequences of defying a 3-line whip: “Defying a three-line whip is very serious, and has occasionally resulted in the whip being withdrawn from an MP or Lord. This means that the Member is effectively expelled from their party (but keeps their seat) and must sit as an independent until the whip is restored.”

Even the braver of the rebels is too cowardly to be known forever as the ones who broke up the Labour party, so they’re trying to provoke Corbyn into expelling them. They keep their seats and can set up their own Parliamentary grouping

The key is to expose what they’re up to and why – before they do it – and establish control of the narrative, so they’re simply exposed as dishonourable and ridiculous.

A decisive move against the ringleaders would test the nerve of those who are less entrenched – and a strong PR offensive could make clear why those expelled were selected, tied with hammering home the baseness of the moves they’ve co-ordinated this week and the fact that they were elected as Labour MPs, would put pressure on them and any who follow them to ‘do the decent thing’ –to resign their seats and fight as independents.

After all, even the two Tories who jumped ship to UKIP felt honour-bound to resign and fight by-elections – and who wants to be lower than UKIP?

Source: Labour Yemen rebels support slaughter to provoke Corbyn – and he has to take the bait | The SKWAWKBOX Blog

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10 Comments

  1. rupertrlmitchell October 30, 2016 at 9:27 am - Reply

    Your comments are a tonic to read Mike. Of course these right wing (usually very rich) so-called Labour MPs need to be removed from the Party before they do any more damage to the decent image of Labour under Jeremy Corbyn.

    As to how they would fair if they left is not really any concern of Labour as, speaking personally, I feel that Labour will continue to fall behind in the public’s opinion all the time these treacherous people are allowed to maintain their positions.

    If we can clean up the party and return to true Labour values for a fair society for all then I think Labour will romp home, but if we don’t I fear we will witness a strengthening of the Conservatives for no other reason than there is little difference between them and these Labour right wingers who are only concerned for their own personal gain.

  2. officialaccountability October 30, 2016 at 10:20 am - Reply

    I wonder if this might be better if begun within their own CLPs.. as in announcement that they ware no longer welcome to represent their Constituency, and will not be selected to stand again.That could be followed by a removal of the whip as a Party action?

  3. John Spencer-Davis October 30, 2016 at 10:50 am - Reply

    If 40-odd MPs used pairing not to vote then their absence was irrelevant to the vote count. Correct? Also, pairing has to be approved by the Whips’ office. It has also been reported that “dozens” of MPs obtained authorisation not to attend by the Whips’ office (Guardian, Labour List)

    Shouldn’t we (and Corbyn) be asking the Whips’ office what the hell it thinks it’s doing? Rather than complaining about the people who didn’t vote?

    Thanks, John

  4. John Thatcher October 30, 2016 at 11:14 am - Reply

    The need to take action against the extreme right in the LP,has reached crisis point in my estimation ,since we cannot move forward with them pulling in the opposite direction.

  5. Roland Laycock October 30, 2016 at 11:46 am - Reply

    Its long over due to get rid of them time is short if we want to get our act together for the fight to come

  6. Michael Broadhurst October 30, 2016 at 2:13 pm - Reply

    Corbyn should make an example of them in the best way he can.
    there can be no excuse for these people to vote for the killing of innocents.
    could understand it from the murdering Tories,they dont care about murdering their own citizens.

  7. Lin Wren October 30, 2016 at 7:36 pm - Reply

    Don’t know if it would be allowed but Corbyn could write a respectful letter to the CLP’S of rebels the disgust on the vote & asking for their input? I’M not a party member but my heart is for Labour & Corbyn. ANY MP who voted for rebellion rather than humanity is not worthy of his/her post.

    • Lin Wren November 10, 2016 at 11:38 pm - Reply

      I so agree with you. it makes every descent person cringe. The CLP’S have to step up & ask the questions that we all want answered. Do they want to be supporting such inhumane people?

  8. John Riggins October 31, 2016 at 9:38 am - Reply

    Something that quite a few of us advocated last year, deselect the traitorous treacherous scabs, and now there are even more to be got rid of, but to refuse to support the Party Whip to spite JC is scandalous and I hope the scabs CLP’s are holding these scabs to account for their vile behaviour against our duly elected leader, (twice) they have no right to be an MP as they most surely only represent themselves and not their Constituents, boot them into the well earned obscurity they so richly deserve, many much better MP’s than these were thrown into the political wilderness in the 80’s under the despicable Kinnock’s purge of Militant, Dave Nellist being just one.

  9. mohandeer October 31, 2016 at 12:39 pm - Reply

    Any MP who would vote to continue the horrendous War crimes being perpetrated against the Yemeni people is a disgrace to humanity and I don’t care whether they are Tory or Labour. Unless Corbyn distinguishes permanently between Labour Right and Centrist Labour, I cannot and will not side with the Labour Party.

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