The Israel/Palestine conflict as seen on (This Site’s) social media

If you’ve been following the Israel/Palestine conflict on the mainstream media (I haven’t) it seems you may have been led to believe that the attack on Israel by Hamas was pure evil.

Palestinians have been accused of kidnapping children, raping women, murdering indescriminately. Has torture been in the mix?

Meanwhile, what has been said about the reasons given by Hamas for launching its attack in the first place? The constant – several times daily – abuse and occasionally murder of Palestinians (including children) by Israeli occupation forces? Anything?

The social media seems to have offered a more balanced view, as I hope to demonstrate below – with one caveat: there has also been a lot of foaming-at-the-mouth hatred – mostly towards Israel. This Writer can’t tell whether that has been by genuine lunatics or bad-faith actors trying to paint supporters of Palestinian independence as genocidal anti-Zionists.

Here’s some of the back-and-forth, as it appeared on my ‘X’ feed:

Let’s start with Keir Starmer saying there is “no justification” for the Hamas attack – and Jackie Walker’s response, explaining that it is a retaliation against Israel’s illegal occupation and colonisation of Palestine, that is itself an act of war:

This is self-explanatory – an Israeli minister evading questions about what her government and its armed forces have been doing to Palestinians:

Armed struggle by Palestinians against illegal occupiers is legitimate under international law:

Double-standards of Israel’s international supporters is demonstrated by their attitude to the same tactic as Hamas has employed, being carried out in Ukraine:

Former Cabinet minister Sajid Javid says Hamas has been proscribed by the UK as a terrorist organisation. The question is: was that decision justified in the light of what Israel has been doing to Palestine and Palestinians?

Israeli journalist Gideon Levy provides more insight into why people in Gaza might want to resist Israel:

Andrew Feinstein at Double Down News shows footage of what Israel has been doing in Palestine and demonstrates that Israel’s supporters in other countries like the UK are supporting this barbarity by silencing comment on it, many because they see Israel as the centre of an ethno-fascist movement of which they want to be a part:

UK broadcaster Adil Ray points out that Israel’s retaliation is not helpful:

Michael Walker of Novara Media points out how Israeli policy has attacked the very existence of Palestine. Why is it forbidden to question the existence of Israel when Israel illegally erodes the existence of Palestine?

https://twitter.com/michaeljswalker/status/1710571617472897253

Rapper and activist Lowkey explains the reality of the Israel/Palestine conflict:

https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1710756124998222169

Right-wing commentator Dan Hodges tries to score points against UK left-wingers by claiming that a movement that should support international peace has support for terrorism as the “price of admission” to fashionability (whatever that means):

An interesting historical note. I haven’t verified this, though:

Senior political correspondent for the Daily Express attacks Labour MP Apsana Begum for supporting Palestinian freedom from Israel. He seems shocked that Palestinians would say the attacks on Israel were due to Israel’s own behaviour:

More than half of British people feel “unfavourable” towards Israel, according to a poll:

Adil Ray (again), while approving of the messages of support for Israel, suggests that Palestinians might welcome support for their right to an unoccupied homeland:

Supporters of Palestinian independence celebrate the attack on Israel in London. Right-wing commentator Nile Gardiner wants them arrested as possible terrorists themselves, or even illegal migrants, on the basis that they support a strike for freedom from occupation.

Keir Starmer wrongly says there is “no justification” for the attack on Israel; we know there is a reason. He says the perpetrators have “deliberately pushed back the prospect of peace agreements”. Was there any such prospect?

Important context is being ignored by the UK’s news media:

Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he’s going to bomb Gaza into dust, and the people there should leave. This commenter asks the obvious question:

It seems the Hamas incursion into Israel included firing on people at the “Supernova Festival” – a rave held near Gaza. The event is being touted as a “festival for peace” by propagandists:

UK right-wing commentators say Hamas has been targeting civilians – raping women and kidnapping children. Here’s a response:

Renowned journalist John Pilger responds to claims that the Hamas attack was “unprovoked”:

Polling suggests more people in the UK want Palestine recognised as a state than don’t – although it is still a minority:

Here’s a 10-minute criticism of the United States for supporting Ukrainian resistance to Russia’s occupation while supporting Israel’s “occupation/ethnic subjugation” of Palestine. Isn’t that appalling hypocrisy?

Right-wingers respond to a tweet pointing out that Palestinians can’t leave Gaza:

This is self-explanatory:

A report on what is happening in Gaza as Israel retaliates. It seems the Israeli military response is not concerned about harming civilians:

Labour shadow minister David Lammy mourns the death of a British citizen who was in Israel and was killed in the Hamas attack, and supports Israel’s response. Former Labour MP Chris Williamson asks an obvious question and makes a pertinent comment:

Labour’s Wes Streeting supports Israel’s response – and then suggests that a peace deal might still be possible.

More will undoubtedly follow.


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5 Comments

  1. graham poulloin October 9, 2023 at 2:13 pm - Reply

    Israel has reacted exactly the way Hamas wants.
    There was half a chance of an agreement between Israel – which isn’t going away – and Palestine. Instead of a measured reaction Israel are talking about revenge thus ending any possible agreement and perpetuating the conflict.
    Israel should have learned from Russia. Russia is holding Ukraine in check until they are depleted and will then march across to the Dnieper and along the south coast to Odessa. Although America, if their intel is good, will call time on what is in reality their war, by shouting, “Ukraine will never join NATO!”
    Israel should have held Hamas in check and made large of the ongoing negotiations. This would have brought peace to Palestine in due course and the end of Hamas.
    Instead the stiff necked action of Israel has allowed Hamas to win even when they lose the war!

  2. Elijah Traven October 9, 2023 at 3:56 pm - Reply

    Israel might well be planning to do to Gaza what Azerbaijan has recently done to Nagorno-Karabakh. With what is left of the 2 million Palestinians after this affair is over and every building is reduced to rubble given an open corridor to the West Bank. Gaza will then be rebuilt and populated mainly if not exclusively by Israelis. Then in a few years or more do to West Bank what has been done to Gaza and open corridors out for the Palestinians to Jordan, Lebanon etc. Problem solved as Israel will become a Greater Israel incorporating Gaza and West Bank. And then after this to expand into the territory all around them. What do you think?

    • mohandeer October 10, 2023 at 3:10 pm - Reply

      I think the Israelis are shooting themselves in the head. Once there are no Palestinians left in Israel, there are countries who would look away if Israel were wiped off the face of the earth.

  3. Martyn Meacham October 9, 2023 at 7:05 pm - Reply

    Israel has been stealing Palestinian land, destroying Palestinian crops and livestock, destroying Palestinian homes, cutting Palestinians off from water, and electricity supplies, and murdering Palestinians, including children! kidnapping children and throwing them in prison….purposely targeting and murdering journalists for over 70 years! The Gutless UN are too cowardly to stop these war crimes, and crimes against humanity….

    • mohandeer October 10, 2023 at 3:13 pm - Reply

      The UN does not represent it’s member nations, it serves those who run the world and fund their sorry excuse for a United Nations bought & paid for organisation. There was never going to be a peace deal for the Palestinians, just more of the horrors that have gone before over the last 70 years.

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