Could Welsh Labour split from the national party because of Starmer?

Starmer: this is just one of his offences while acting as Labour leader. Read down the article for more.

It seems Keir Starmer’s stance on Northern Ireland could be the final straw that forces Welsh Labour to secede from the national party.

Take a look at Dewi Eirig Jones’s response to Starmer’s unwarranted policy announcement below:

It would be easy to understand why anybody in a Labour Party organisation that still represented actual Labour values would want to split from Starmer’s Blairite, neoliberal, pro-Tory, anti-union, racist, little-Englander party but if you’d like examples, let’s see if I can provide some for you:

Support for NHS privatisation.

Support for Northern Ireland unionism in a referendum – when the Good Friday Agreement demands that he would have to be impartial.



Siding with the rich against the poor.

Blaming others for his own failures.


  • The campaign to punish Labour left-wingers.
  • The campaign to silence criticism.
  • The erosion of Labour’s share of the electorate.
  • Starmer’s support for the loss of our right to protest.
  • Starmer’s attempt to gaslight us into thinking Jeremy Corbyn is responsible for Labour’s loss of support.
  • Starmer’s sustained support of Conservative policies and legislation.
  • Starmer’s support of the so-called Spycops Bill in particular.
  • Starmer’s adoption of fascist symbolism, in line with the Tories – flags, haircuts and suits preferred over socialist policies.
  • Efforts by right-wing Labour Party officers and representatives – many of them unelected – to disenfranchise party members and deny them representation.
  • And an attitude of entitlement that tries to tell us that we must accept Starmer sneering at us because he thinks he knows better.

And his ditching of the 10 pledges on which he was elected Labour leader in the first place.

I have many more examples but will those do for the time being? And would Scottish Labour consider doing the same?

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9 thoughts on “Could Welsh Labour split from the national party because of Starmer?

  1. Jeffrey Davies

    This is whot is erck want a Labour party so broken it can’t fight back against these in power stammer the spammer

  2. William-Glyn THOMAS

    I have advocated for a very long time that Llafur should not be tied to English Labour’s apron. As an independent Welsh party they would have a greater influence in UK politics and they could lead instead of being led. At the moment the English party is desperate for the support of Llafur but very little consultation takes place over policies.

  3. J Edington

    I doubt if Labour in Scotland would ever think of such an anti-unionist move. They have been told umpteen times that it would be their only way back into Scottish politics but they are so intent on coalitions with the Tories, to shut the SNP out of councils etc, that they are deaf to reality.

    1. Mike Sivier Post author

      Can you provide evidence of anyone in Labour going into coalition with the Tories? To my way of thinking, anybody doing so should be out of the Labour Party.

  4. marcus de Mowbray

    UK is exactly like Life of Brian: loads of tiny People’s Popular Fronts…Scottish, Welsh, N. Irish Nationalists, Greens, Lib Dems, communists, anarchists, Independents…all squabbling away in their small groups in their small caves. Meanwhile the Romans/Tories remain in unchallenged power, regardless of their lies, fraud, corruption, contempt and genocide.

    Worse still, our out-dated “first Past The Post” Electoral system adds to the imbalance and we have virtually no chance of breaking the Tory dictatorship.

  5. Grey Swans

    Seceding from England’s Labour would still have the toxic Labour party name. Why not Welsh Labour fully convert (not needing a further election as that has passed) for MP or Senedd, into the Plaid Cymru. They might have co-leaders?

    1. Mike Sivier Post author

      Because Plaid and Welsh Labour don’t have the same politics, of course.

      Also, a free-standing Welsh Labour might actually rehabilitate the Labour brand.

  6. Martyn Meacham

    Starmer’s fake labour likud party is a total disgrace.They have betrayed the people that they pledged to serve. We have no voice in Parliament,no one to hold the tories and their corrupt excesses to account. I hope Welsh Labour cuts all ties with English Labour.

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