Death of a great man marred by the hypocrisy of a weasel

Hypocrite: We can't prove Cameron was behind the 'Hang Mandela' campaign of the 1980s, but we do know he opposed Mandela's politics and supported apartheid in South Africa. He did not think Mandela was a "great light" or a "hero" - he's just saying what he thinks you want to hear.

Hypocrite: We can’t prove Cameron was behind the ‘Hang Mandela’ campaign of the 1980s, but we do know he opposed Mandela’s politics and supported apartheid in South Africa. He did not think Mandela was a “great light” or a “hero” – he’s just saying what he thinks you want to hear.

I hope everyone in the UK is as saddened by the death of Nelson Mandela as they are disgusted by David Cameron’s two-faced tribute.

According to Wikipedia, Mr Mandela rose to prominence in the ANC’s 1952 Defiance Campaign. Working as a lawyer, he was repeatedly arrested for seditious activities and, with the ANC leadership, was unsuccessfully prosecuted in the Treason Trial from 1956 to 1961. Although initially committed to non-violent protest, he co-founded the militant Umkhonto we Sizwe (MK) in 1961 in association with the South African Communist Party, leading a sabotage campaign against the apartheid government. In 1962 he was arrested, convicted of conspiracy to overthrow the government, and sentenced to life imprisonment in the Rivonia Trial.

Mandela served 27 years in prison, initially on Robben Island, and later in Pollsmoor Prison and Victor Verster Prison. An international campaign lobbied for his release, which was granted in 1990 amid escalating civil strife.

After his release, he served as President of South Africa from 1994 to 1999. He was the first black South African to hold the office, and the first elected in a fully representative election. His government focused on dismantling the legacy of apartheid through tackling institutionalised racism, poverty and inequality, and fostering racial reconciliation.

While he was in prison, David Cameron was involved in some extremely shady anti-Mandela activities.

According to a statement that was put out across the social media in the summer, “When he [Mr Mandela] does die, and David Cameron jumps on the Mandela bandwagon, remember that in 1985 he was a top member of the Federation of Conservative Students, which produced the “Hang Mandela” posters.

“In 1989, Cameron worked in the Tory Policy Unit at Central Office and went on an anti-sanctions fact-finding mission to South Africa with a pro-apartheid lobby firm sponsored by PW Botha. Remember this when he tells the world he was inspired by Mandela.”

Cameron’s membership of the Federation of Conservative Students is questionable, as is his participation in the “Hang Mandela” campaign. His participation in the fact-finding mission is well-documented, though.

As for his party – well, let’s look at the words of Conservative talisman Margaret Thatcher: “The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation.” Tories revere the Blue Baroness; if that was her opinion, no doubt it belonged to many of them as well.

If you still need to be convinced, see the following:

“Nelson Mandela should be shot.” – Tory MP Teddy Taylor

“This hero worship is very much misplaced.”- Tory MP John Carlisle

“How much longer will the Prime Minister allow herself to be kicked in the face by this black terrorist?” – Tory MP Terry Dicks

(All the above are taken from Tom Pride’s article on the subject earlier this year)

Conservatives hated Mandela; Cameron was a Conservative then and is Conservative leader now.

When you see him saying things like, “A great light has gone out in the world. Nelson Mandela was a hero of our time,” remember that.

What a two-faced, hypocritical slug.


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96 thoughts on “Death of a great man marred by the hypocrisy of a weasel

  1. Andy Robertson-Fox

    How low can Vox get? What justification is there for raising something that may or may not have been the situation over twenty years ago. Nelson Mandela’s early life was, without doubt, highly questionable and he changed his ways from the violent approach to peaceful protestation. I see no reason not to give Cameron the same perogative in reassessing his judgment of the late President.

    1. Mike Sivier

      If that were true, then the very least Cameron could do is stand up and admit that he held different views in the past, that he was wrong to hold them, and that he is sorry he ever did. I see none of that.

      1. Andy Robertson-Fox

        Why should he admit to having changed his opinion…do you apolgise for some of the things you may have said or done when you were, like Cameron was, in your early twenties? It was water under the bridge a long time ago and all you are trying to do is muck rake.

      2. Andy Robertson-Fox

        True but you make the assumption that in paying tribute as the Prime Minister of the UK to the man on his death he should indulge in apologising for something he may have said or done as an individual many years ago and you consider to be to be badly wrong. The stance of the Conservative party in general, and of which he is a part, has long since acknowledged that their overall perception of Mandela was at fault.

      3. Mike Sivier

        We’ve covered this. Cameron was the one who did the acknowledging, in 2006. Then in 2010 it became clear that he personally had taken part in questionable activities. He was asked to make a personal apology for his own actions and has yet to do so.

      4. Mike Sivier

        Andy Robertson-Fox has gone on to make a further six comments, all of which allege some kind of hypocrisy on my part, or that of other commenters, for using this space to criticise David Cameron’s own hypocrisy. I shan’t weary your eyes with any of it,

    2. [email protected]

      I fail to see how any resistance to apartheid could be ‘questionable’, even violence. Apartheid was one of the great atrocities of our time and had to be stopped by whatever means necessary. Mandela moved on from violence for a number of reasons, all noble. Cameron has moved on from his questionable views because they are no longer acceptable to the majority of people, if they were still acceptable, Cameron would still hold them.

      1. Richy Dapperdon

        Really? do you support Palestinian voilence against Israel because they are resisiting apartheid?

      2. Mike Sivier

        While this seems like an interesting and worthwhile debate in itself, can we have it elsewhere? This is about Cameron’s reaction to the death of a greater man.

      3. Andy Robertson-Fox

        My point entirely. Mandela forsook the path of violence for peaceful protests. Cameron has moved from his stance, I suggest, because like so many he recognised that Mandela had also done so.

      4. richard cooley

        Changing your views just because the majority of people don’t agree is by no means any excuse to change your own opinion. He has a right to hold those views and, unfortunately, he is spineless enough to not hold onto them and just go with the crowd. Pathetic. I’m not by any means saying his views are good at all, I personally think they were despicable and still are. The fact he won’t own up to the fact that in the past he had these views but now he has been able to re-evaluate etc is ridiculous. He has completely thrown aside the notion we might forgive him for his past activities. He thinks he understands people but has absolutely no idea.

      5. Mike Sivier

        We don’t know that Cameron has re-evaluated his views. Other than that, I agree with what you’re saying. It’s the saying one thing while having done another, with no indication of a change of heart that makes him wrong.

      1. Mike Sivier

        Can we please not have personal comments or attacks? It’s better to discuss why we disagree with other people than attack the people themselves. You never know – you might persuade them!

    3. Mikky Hunter

      You’re talking out of your anus. What is questionable about his early life? So you’re saying is that if Britain was invaded by some African country let’s say and its citizens assets and land was being stolen or robbed whilst they also were being brutalised and murdered and you decided to take up arms to resist the oppression, you would consider yourself a terrorist?

    4. A Sullivan

      Why don’t you learn the facts before spouting rubbish? Mandela led a peaceful campaign for years. Have you heard of the Sharpville Massacre? He made a speech saying he could not continue supporting a campaign of non-violence when it was met by violence and brutality of the government. The ANC then had a campaign of sabotage of installations, never directed at people. The defiance campaign, the campaign to make South Africa ungovernable and the international solidarity movement (sanctions and demonstrations) finally brought down the evil apartheid system. Then De Klerk got a Nobel Peace Prize with Mandela- that was pretty hard to take.

    5. Connie

      David Cameron had no right to say that speech should have been someone from the royals on the country’s behalf. To Andy Robertson fox your point is fair but Mandela and the ANC were watching people die every day because of white South African police and people are supposed sit back allow this happen, from what my mother tells me it was no longer peaceful situation so they had to do violence. David Cameron was ignorant full stop. P.S APOLOGISING DOESN’T MAKE UP FOR THE FACT THAT YOU WANTED AN INNOCENT MAN DEAD WITHOUT A VAILD REASON APART FROM THE FACT THE FIGHT HIS WAS FIGHTING MADE WHITE PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE.

  2. Michelle Coxon

    Very well put! The hypocrisy is oozing out of every pore, I didn’t expect any less from this piece of scum.
    @Andy Robertson there’s every justification for this! Cameron could’ve said “my early views were wrong, but my perspective changed” or something to that effect but no being the hypocritical arsewipe he is, he chose to glorify a man he once campaigned to have hung!!
    Good article, and well done exposing even more faces to this evil beast 🙂

    1. Andy Robertson-Fox

      There is no justification whatsoever apart from having a snide dig at a politician you clearly disrespect.

      1. Mike Sivier

        … in your opinion. At this point, you appear to be very clearly in the minority. Respect must be earned, by the way, and I’d like to see your definition of ‘snide’.

  3. Morgan Weaver

    Also noting Ca’moron getting into the pockets of a political regime known for breaching human rights this week. Yes let’s examine how he is a respectful mourner for the rest of Nelson Mandela… one of these two men changed the world for the better, the other sidesteps over the bodies of ATOS and DWP victims. One of these men fought for the rights of the weakest to live outside of poverty, the other is increasing the need for food banks in one of the richest nations on the planet. One of these men fought for the rights of the smallest person, the other fights to remove them.

      1. ireallymeanthis

        People are entitled to change their views- that doesn’t make them hypocritical. But the question is,have subsequent actions and words demonstrated that such a change has happened?

        With the PM, there’s been no acknowledgement of any ssuc change & then there’s the policies of workfare,poverty pay,the scapegoating of the weakest in our society( the disabled/long term sick), the demonizing of people who rely on state help, the evil sanctions regime….

        There’s a long list of policies ,over which the PM presides,which go against principles deeply-held by Mandela.

  4. Nick

    nelson Mandela was the complete opposite of David Cameron’ nelson was a true leader Cameron will go down in history as a person who cared nothing for the vulnerable’ he only cared like so many leaders of today for himself and close friends and family only

  5. dougieshroom (@dougieshroom)

    Andy Robertson-Fox. How was Mandelas early life questionable? Read the transcript of his speech from his Trial in 1964 . He eloquently explains his actions and the reasons behind them. If you are fighting for freedom it’s inevitable that blood will get spilt. I can’t see any of our current political leaders being prepared to make a stand and sacrifice so much for what they believe in, can you?

    1. Andy Robertson-Fox

      While he may explain his actions and the reasons behind them Mandela realised that the shedding of blood was counter productive and abandoned that path and followed and advocated the one of peaceful protest. What current political leaders might do is irrelevant

      1. Mikky Hunter

        Ok Andy you are indicative of the type of mentality that needs to be mummified immediately. Fighting for freedom is the mantra of Britain and US led softies into despotic regions of the globe while in the process much blood is shed so what makes Mandela different? In my own country why the he’ll would I protest peacefully these are the actions of a people who feel they need to beg for freedom from their masters. The freedom south Africa needs can not be negotiated. 80 % of the land there is owned by a handful of whites that’s what I can’t understand or accept the double standards. We need more Mugabes

    2. Duncan

      Ghandi was fighting for freedom without spilling blood… Nothing inevitable about it.

      …also not necessarily saying that it is wrong to spill blood to achieve freedom, just that effective protest doesn’t require it.

  6. John Judd Buckley

    Cameron is a Lying hypocrite..Just like the rest of his CONalition.When the shadow chancellor replied to the budget speech,and highlighted ATOS and DWP for the misery poverty and suicides caused by his kind,,,not one face on the CONalition benches showed any kind of remorse or regret

  7. Nina

    “Overcoming poverty is not a task of charity, it is an act of justice. Like Slavery and Apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human beings.” – Nelson Mandela

    It is within David Cameron’s power to end poverty for all in the UK. Instead, we have benefit sanctions. Slave labour workfare schemes. Tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the poor and disabled. The list goes on and on.

    David Cameron says: “A great light has gone out in the world” while wilfully ignoring the lessons Mandela had to teach.

    That is hypocrisy.

    It’s not the responsibility of towering figures, legends or heros to be humanitarian, Mr. Cameron; it’s the responsibility of us all. It’s your responsibility as much as it is mine, as much as it was his.

    Shame on you.

    Thank you for this post, Mike.

    1. Mike Sivier

      This is a terrific comment, Nina, and I urge you to send it to Cameron himself – and to the national press. Even if it doesn’t get published, it will be worthwhile.

    2. StopWhinging

      Cameron doesn’t have the means to end all poverty in this country, it’s too expensive. Tax cuts for the rich made no difference to anyone below them as there aren’t that many to generate a meaningful amount of cash. How long will people keep harping on about that… get over it. If you were a millionaire you wouldn’t be complaining. Benefit sanctions are required because it’s too easy to sit on your arse doing sod all about being unemployed when the benefits are too high. They should be used just to get you through the hard times, not fund a lifestyle. The only person who is responsible to make your life better is yourself… people should stop whinging that other people aren’t helping them and get off their arse and do something about it. I did and I moved up from struggling on £60 per week to now being very comfortable, it was very hard work but I got there and I’m proud of my achievements. People who complain about how hard life is under the {insert whatever party you want here} government will never do what I’ve done because they think everyone else should do it for them…

      1. Mike Sivier

        While I congratulate you for pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, I must disagree with just about every point you make. Cameron could end poverty if he wanted to do so; the fact is that his policies are intentionally making it worse, in order to ensure that wages are driven down and business bosses/shareholders get to keep the lion’s share of company profits. This is very clear. Benefit sanctions may be necessary in certain circumstances but this government is applying them in a manner that is appallingly irresponsible and could only be deemed otherwise if there were many, many more jobs available than there are. Plenty of material is available online about this subject. If you research the stories of people who have been through the system, you may find yourself unpleasantly surprised.

      2. Mike Sivier

        StopWhinging here, who posts from the email address [email protected] and therefore does not seem the kind of person who feels comfortable putting his own name to his words, also made several other posts, putting forward views that were not only extremely unsympathetic to the plight of the poor but also unsuitable for this thread, which is about Nelson Mandela’s death and David Cameron’s reaction to it.

  8. Sam

    You can contend that Cameron didn’t explicitly say ‘hang Mandela’ but you can’t contest that the current commercialist western administration opposes/ ignores today’s revolutionary thinkers and seekers of social justice (Snowden et al) whilst, at the same time, praising seekers of social justice in other states where it’s more convenient (China, Tibet, Libya, Syria etc.)

    1. Mike Sivier

      Make no mistake – whether Cameron said “Hang Mandela” or not, his behaviour has been despicable. And his participation is only disputed – not disproved. Why would I propose to contest what you say about revolutionary thinkers and seekers of social justice when it agrees with my argument?

      1. Nick

        David Cameron politics have never been like that of nelson Mandela not even a passing thought and it would be very wrong of him to say otherwise

  9. Roy Colley

    I didn’t think even a Roach like Cameron would sink this low , 2 face Evil T-at, and his party, you couldn’t have it more Black & white how 2 face and Low this Government and there leader Cameron really is.. When the people cant trust the political power in there country, IT SHOULD BE REMOVED BY THE PEOPLE

  10. Thomas M

    Mandela had his faults, but by not seeking revenge he avoided a race war in South Africa. And at least he tried to better the lot of the people, Cameron on the either side is busy putting people into debt, starvation and/or slave labour.

  11. Joseph smith

    There can be little doubt that Cameron is /has found another populist bandwagon to jump on and divert attention from his coalitions life threatening policies via the DWP and Atos. If Cameron has just one tenth of one percent of Mandelas humanity ability skill and political backbone he would be doing things very differently to resolve this countries problems whilst not punishing the unfortunate, the ill, the poor, the disabled, the unemployed, etc etc. equally, Cameron, if he were a man instead of the self seeking slobbering pink cheeked nearly adult boy he would dump the well known liar thief fraudster and cheat Ian Duncan Smith. If Cameron was in any small way humanitarian he would stop the continual threats attacks and discriminatory activities of the DWP which is creating huge divisions in our hitherto caring society, it’s easier to turn the back Davey boy and enjoy the adulation of the ass licking acolytes you’ve surrounded yourself with isn’t it?
    Comparisons with Thatcher? No Dave her balls were much bigger than yours will ever be. Humanitarian? no Dave you have not even the remotest clue what the word means.

  12. Tom P

    Conservatives hated Mandela, Cameron was a Conservative, therefore, Cameron hates Mandela. Nice logic bro.

    1. Mike Sivier

      It’s a little more conclusive than that – Cameron was pro-apartheid, and he may have been part of the “Hang Mandela” campaign. Asked to apologise for his part in a mission to South Africa, organised by a pro-apartheid lobbying group in 1989 (after it became public in a biography published in 2010- four years after he said the Conservative Party should not have taken the view it had), Cameron has yet to do so.

  13. Joff Leader

    Cameron is a wothless slug, but he started at university the year *after* the leaflet was produced. Let’s keep our side fact based, eh?

    1. Mike Sivier

      Our side is fact-based. I stated that the allegations about him being involved with “Hang Mandela” were unproven. The movement went on long after the leaflets were produced; apparently there was a song that was still being sung by Conservative students well into the 2000s, if I understand correctly.

      1. The average Joe UK

        Then update the article, you have inferred that Cameron was involved in a heinous act. That is very low.

      2. Mike Sivier

        The article has it about right. It does not infer anything at all, nor does it imply that Cameron was involved. It states that others have made the claim, but that this is questionable.

        I have deleted your other comments as they appear to be personal attacks on me, rather than any attempt at reasoned argument.

  14. cam

    Like he even had a say in whether he would give a short speech about him or not… he was probably forced

  15. Chris Tandy

    “While he was in prison, David Cameron was involved in some extremely shady anti-Mandela activities.”
    I would like to think that were true…but I think it’s the result of a ‘hanging participle’.

    Or wishful thinking?

    Otherwise, caMoron is not fit to shine the shoes of Nelson Mandela; and if he did, you would not see his reflection in the toecaps..

  16. Annie

    If you all, as you do, think Mandela such a great man…why must he be the only one. People learn, experience life and yes even change their opinions. If they didn’t , we would still be living in the dark ages with Victorian values and rules….also not so pretty. If nothing else take a leaf out of the good mans book, and embrace and reconcile. Otherwise, everything he ever done is in vain. RIP Nelson Mandela. May we all be a smidgen and good as you ‘grew’ to be.

    1. Mike Sivier

      Who said anything about Mandela being the “only” great man? If your are concerned about dark ages and Victorian values, then you will already be concerned about Cameron’s policies. He will not become a better man if we only ever show him approval. Mandela’s statement in court makes it clear that he only ever wanted a democratic state, with no race dominant in it; Cameron’s behaviour marks him out as a political opportunist with no conscience.

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  18. Tony

    Regardless if Cameron is being hypercritical or not, Cameron is the Prime Minister of Great Britain. He is paying condolences to someone that many people in Britain regard as truly inspirational figure. His words are not just his personal opinion but he also speaks for Brit’s who do not have the same platform to express their condolences.

    1. Mike Sivier

      His own past behaviour and lack of remorse for it hugely diminishes the relevance of the tribute. Speaking as a representative of Britain can only make that worse.

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  20. Mr Nobody

    Excellent article & debate, I wont add too much as its pretty obvious to anyone with an ounce of intelligence that this article is about the insincerity, hypocrisy & duplicity of the leader of the conservative party leader David Cameron. His agenda is to re-build a British empire (of sorts) on the backs of the most vulnerable of the United Kingdoms population. There are talks of a further 9 billion that needs to be squeezed out of the system for the sake of the deficit @StopWhinging Google, Vodafone, Starbucks, could cover the deficit in one swoop if they were made to pay there taxes.. the figures are very very easy to find.

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  22. Sriomal de Silva

    The Sri Lankan Ambassador Dr.Chris Nonis, clearly exposed David Cameron’s two faced political strategies and hypocrisy, as it is demonstrated here and then about Hanging Mandela. He must first be humble enough to admit publicly that he was wrong back then about Mandela, before trying to speak his words of wisdom about Mandela’s greatness. David, the people remember what you said.

  23. Glen Marson

    The man who spent the most part of his formative years in prison. An honorable man who some once likened to a “terrorist,” how crass? What a statement when if you choose to consider ways in which you had, and still have your foot soldiers ply weapons of destruction and terror around the world to the insurgent where ever they may be during attempts at enhancing yourself with prestige and money, what a legacy? Those are things you could not and for the living can’t take with you to your grave.

    Rest in peace Mandela, for the turmoil in the “modern world” has yet still to be eradicated.

  24. David Moynagh

    Ok we need a comparison to settle who is the great man and who is the slithering tory hypocrite. Did Mandela ever engineer cruel policies that drove vulnerable sick and disabled people to utter despair and suicide ? The answer is NO…. Did Cameron , along with Iain Duncan Smith ever devise such policies and continue to use such cruel policies even in the face of growing suicides amongst the sick and disabled ? The answer is YES. You can find the details on google, under Calums List. So to answer the question.about Cameron being a sleazy hypocrite……. Of course he is… its a basic requirement of being a tory.

  25. Sunny L Carol

    Nothing would surprise me about Cameron. He is the worst PM the UK has ever had and is running his own apartheid on the poor of Briton. Nelson Mandela was a great man and long may he be remembered as such. RIP.

  26. J.P.M.H

    “I hope everyone in the UK is as saddened by the death of Nelson Mandela as they are disgusted by David Cameron’s two-faced tribute.”

    I would hope that not everyone is saddened by the death of Nelson Mandela, as I would hope some people have taken the time to learn about his past and see that he was not the saint that everyone says he is. I am in no way shape or form on the side of apartheid, but I do not support the violence that took place and has been ignored. He was offered freedom from prison if he renounced violence and he refused several times. He also supported Mugabe and did nothing as he expelled the white farmers

    1. Mike Sivier

      I don’t think anyone has denied the fact that violence happened but even if you were able to place the blame for harm to other people directly on him, it is clear that he put all that firmly behind him before his release from prison. Take a look at some of the other comments here.

    2. Mike Sivier

      Mandela’s reasons for declining were that he would not leave with conditions of any kind imposed upon him, and he would not allow himself to be singled out from the men who had worked alongside him.

      I can’t find any reference to Mandela supporting Mugabe’s expulsion of white farmers. In an interview in May this year, Mugabe criticised Mandela for being too soft on white farmers in South Africa – which suggests you are mistaken. In any case, it seems white farmers in Zimbabwe were set to be offered cash to move out, as 4,000 of them owned half the farming land in the country – but this was in an agreement with the UK government – and the claim is that Britain reneged on the deal. Mugabe then forced them out. So it seems the situation was more complicated than you describe, and Mandela was not involved.

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  28. Silver

    What a load of bull. The article is lacking clear evidence and is clearly biased – extremely unprofessional. In fact, when elected leader of the Conservative Party, in 2006 Cameron flew to South Africa to personally apologise to Mandela for the past Tory policies. This is also well documented:…/cameron-we-were-wrong-to…
    And let’s not forget what the great man himself – Mandela – said about reconciliation: “As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn’t leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I’d still be in prison.” So is it not a bit preposterous to put a blame of 30 year old Tory policy on the PM who was just a young student on those days? Instead of looking forward and find a common ground?

  29. Big Daddy

    Come on Mike, grow a pair and say Cameron actually was part of the Hang Mandela campaign. Or continue to use your pathetically weak “may have been” language just to whip up a few idiots. Well done.

    Of anyone here is capitalising on Mandela’s death it’s you.

    Now tell me, who is the hypocrite again?

    1. Mike Sivier

      Oh, I don’t know… I’d say anybody coming here under the pseudonym ‘Big Daddy’ is trying to compensate for something, wouldn’t you?

      The reason I’m absolutely NOT saying Cameron was part of any such campaign is because I do not KNOW that.

      Now why don’t YOU ‘grow a pair’, admit that the junket to South Africa with an apartheid-supporting organisation is enough, and join the grown-up debate?

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  31. Joseph Smith

    That Cameron was involved in mealy mouthed statements and deeds is beyond any reasonable doubt. It’s the highly dubious Fascist activities he’s now involved in whilst masquerading as PM and leader which is the worry now. That’s he’s also a liar and has broken each and every one of his election promises seems unimportant to many of the dimwits and their caustic criticism featured on here. Remember Cameron’s pre-election promises? The ones he made whilst he conned and defrauded his way in to power? That and his continued support of that Fascist snake Ian Duncan Smith makes me very angry, and when I read some of the stupid childish comments written here I’m unsurprised Cameron’s in power. Mike, does a good job here in bringing to our attention the threats consistent with this bent governments suspect activities. So until you naysayers grow up and open your eyes lay off.

    1. Andy Robertson-Fox

      But as you wıll possıbly apprecıate from the comments on here not everyone would agree wıth your opınıon and that ıs the value of lıvıng ın a democracy

      1. Mike Sivier

        This page isn’t a democracy, though. It’s mine. People visit to read what I have to say. Opinions are welcome, yes – but within certain boundaries: You may not make personal attacks or insults against anybody else commenting here, for example. Also unreasonable behaviour of any kind – especially that which the commenter tries to claim is legitimate.
        There are other things I won’t tolerate as well. If that upsets anyone, they’re welcome to start up their own blog and have their say on that. This space is mine.

        And if anyone starts wailing that I’m advocating censorship, they can f*** off.

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